Water in Rate Law Equation


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Rayna Irving 2C
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Water in Rate Law Equation

Postby Rayna Irving 2C » Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:56 am

Quick question, do we ever include water when writing a rate law equation?

Brennan McGurrr 3C
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Re: Water in Rate Law Equation

Postby Brennan McGurrr 3C » Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:18 am

In an aqueous solution, the concentration of water cannot be measured. It will not have an effect on the rate of the reaction, so it is not included in the rate law.

Izamary Marquez 2H
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Re: Water in Rate Law Equation

Postby Izamary Marquez 2H » Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:33 am

It doesn't have a specific effect, so we typically don't include it.

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Re: Water in Rate Law Equation

Postby Valerie Tran 2B » Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:47 am

It can be included if it is present in the reaction mechanism but we usually leave it out because its concentration doesn't affect the rate.

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Re: Water in Rate Law Equation

Postby Christine Ma 3L » Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:01 am

Most of the time we don't include water in our rate laws because it is usually the solvent and thus any change in its concentration is negligible. However, when water is not the solvent, we do have to include it in the rate law.

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Re: Water in Rate Law Equation

Postby RyanKopeikin_2I » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:24 pm

Water would only be included in the rate law equation if it was part of the rate-determining (slowest) step, and an organic solvent is being used (So water is not the solvent). As long as water IS the solvent, it won't be included in the rate law.

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Re: Water in Rate Law Equation

Postby Kiana Tashakori 1D » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:28 pm

No, you don't have to include water because its concentration doesn't affect the rate.

Alan Nguyen 2I
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Re: Water in Rate Law Equation

Postby Alan Nguyen 2I » Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:57 pm

Liquid water does not have a concentration, meaning that it does not affect the rate law. Remember, the definition of a rate law states that it shows how fast a reaction proceeds based on reactant concentration. Because water does not make sense to have a concentration, it is not included in the rate law.

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Re: Water in Rate Law Equation

Postby Grant_2A » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:17 pm

usually not because it doesn't affect the rate in most cases.

Emily Quill 2H
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Re: Water in Rate Law Equation

Postby Emily Quill 2H » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:34 pm

Since it's concentration typically does not affect the rate it is usually not included.

David Facio 3C
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Re: Water in Rate Law Equation

Postby David Facio 3C » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:54 pm

This is similar to when something is in excess. We don't take that excess water into account because it is considered an aqueous solution, therefore it will not have a large enough effect.

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Re: Water in Rate Law Equation

Postby Amanda Dankberg 1B » Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:57 am

We do not include water when it is the solvent (which is most of the time) but do include it when it is not (when it is a gas)

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Re: Water in Rate Law Equation

Postby Bela Patel 2B » Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:02 pm

Including water in a rate law equation has no effect on the rate of the reaction and the concentration of water can not be measured in an aqueous solution, so therefore we do not include water in rate law equations.

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Re: Water in Rate Law Equation

Postby Aaron Martinez » Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:27 pm

Like with equilibrium concentration formulas, we don't include water. This is because it is a pure liquid, and hard to measure the concentration of. It also doesn't really affect the speed of a reaction.

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Re: Water in Rate Law Equation

Postby Amy Jordan 2A » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:56 am

Hi, when water is in its aqueous form we don't include it because its concentration isn't measured so it doesn't affect the rate of the reaction.


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