first order of rxns

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Mary Grace Stevens 3G
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first order of rxns

Postby Mary Grace Stevens 3G » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:46 am

If a reaction is considered first order, does that mean that n is always 1 in first order reactions?

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Re: first order of rxns

Postby Lisa Seidl 3H » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:34 am

I am pretty sure the value of n will vary, but this also confused me in the lecture on monday since I am pretty sure t=0 and ln[a]o=c but I am not sure if there is a set value for n.

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Re: first order of rxns

Postby clairehathaway 2J » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:14 am

In class we learned that the generic form of a Differential rate Law is Rate = k[R]^n. I'm pretty sure that for first-order reactions the n in that equation will always be 1.

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Re: first order of rxns

Postby Karl Yost 1L » Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:46 am

Yes, I believe so. Since the exponent in the rate law R=k[A]^n is always the reaction order, n=1. However, for second order reactions, it's important to remember that the overall order of the reaction is the sum of the orders w/ respect to the different reactants involved in the rate determining step (long step). As a result, if we have the reactants A and B, we can have the following combinations for a second order rate law:

1) R=k[A][B]
2) R= k[A]^2
3) R=k[B]^2

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Re: first order of rxns

Postby Anna Yang 1A » Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:54 am

If it is first order, its n value will be 1. If zero or second, n will be 0 or 2 respectively.

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Re: first order of rxns

Postby Anna Yang 1A » Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:55 am

However, for overall order of the reaction, you would add up the n, m, l values so a reaction with two first orders would have an overall order of 2.

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Re: first order of rxns

Postby Lucy_Balish_3G » Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:18 am

Yes, that is the definition of a first oder reaction because the n value has to be one or else it is not first order.

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Re: first order of rxns

Postby Neal_Agarwal_3B » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:05 pm

For a reaction to be considered first order the sum of all the orders have to equal 1. It is possible that some reactants may be zero order and others be first order as together that would still total to 1. Its important to look at the orders of all the reactants to find the overall reaction order.

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Re: first order of rxns

Postby LarisaAssadourian2K » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:33 pm

That's correct. N is always 1 for first order reactions. In addition, it would be 2 for second order and 0 for a zero order.

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Re: first order of rxns

Postby Olivia Smith 2E » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:37 pm

Yes for zero order n=0, for first n=1, and for second n=2

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Re: first order of rxns

Postby Stephen Min 1I » Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:17 pm

Yes, that is correct and if there were more than one starting chemicals the overall order must still pertain to only one.

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Re: first order of rxns

Postby Maya Johnson 2a » Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:44 pm

Yes, n=1 for first order, and 0 and 2 for zero and second order.

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Re: first order of rxns

Postby Brandon Le 3C » Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:07 pm

When the reaction is in first order, the value n will always be 1. When the reaction is in zero or second order, the value for n would be 0 and 2, respectively.

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Re: first order of rxns

Postby Gigi Elizarraras 2C » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:25 pm

Yes:) I would assume that n=1 for first order reactions, and similarly n=0 for zero order
hope this helps:)

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Re: first order of rxns

Postby sophia kosturos 2B » Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:52 am

yes, that's correct. You can observe that a reaction is first order if n=1 and vice-versa, if n=1 you can determine that the reaction is at first-order. If n=0 or n=2, this means that the reaction is either zero-order or second-order, respectively.


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