Finding out order


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Finding out order

Postby ShravanPatel2B » Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:47 am

Can the units of the rate constant in a rate law be used to identify the order of the reaction? Also would the units of the rate constant be different in in a rate law of species with different order?

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Re: Finding out order

Postby Riya Sood 4G » Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:17 am

Yes the units of the rate constant can be used to find the order of the reaction.
Depending on the order, the units of the rate constant will be different. For example, for a first order reaction, the units of k will be s^-1.

The best way to ensure that you have the correct units is to plug in k and multiply the concentrations and it should also give the rate in terms of concentration/time

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Re: Finding out order

Postby Sebastian Lee 1L » Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:20 am

Just to expand on the previous comment, you can generalize the rate constant's units as where n is the order of the reaction. So for a zero order reaction, the units would be M/s. For first order, it's just s^-1. For second order, it's , etc.

The rate constant's units will apply to the overall rate law of the step you are looking at. If you have a first order reactant and a second order reactant colliding, you can expect the units for a third order rate constant (assuming this is an elementary step).

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Re: Finding out order

Postby Jessa Maheras 4F » Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:07 pm

Yes, the units of the rate constant are representative of the order of the reaction because the units of the rate constant must cancel out with tge units of the rate law.

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Re: Finding out order

Postby Osvaldo SanchezF -1H » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:10 pm

The units do represent the rate constant but I would like to add that this is different to the total order of the whole reaction as a whole. You would add all of the constants to get the overall order. Do not forget to make that distinction.

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Re: Finding out order

Postby William Chan 1D » Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:06 pm

Technically, yes the rate order could be determined if you know the units of k. The units for k do change for different order equations. If you check to see that the units cancel out and are equal on both sides of the equation, you should be okay.

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Re: Finding out order

Postby Bryan Chen 1H » Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:34 pm

yes, if you look at the rate constant and its units

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Re: Finding out order

Postby Luc Zelissen 1K » Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:36 am

For order (m + n), the rate constant has units of mol1−(m+n)·L(m+n)−1·s−1
For order zero, the rate constant has units of mol·L−1·s−1 (or M·s−1)
For order one, the rate constant has units of s−1
For order two, the rate constant has units of L·mol−1·s−1 (or M−1·s−1)
And for order three, the rate constant has units of L2·mol−2·s−1 (or M−2·s−1)

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Re: Finding out order

Postby Wendy 1E » Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:12 am

Yes, the units can be used to determine the order of the reaction. The way I think about it is, you start out with the units M/s for a zero-order reaction and then you keep dividing by M for each reaction after. For instance, the units for a first-order reaction are 1/s and the units for a second-order reaction are 1/M*s. Hence, each time you divide by M to get the units of the next order.

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Re: Finding out order

Postby Tanmay Singhal 1H » Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:20 am

yeah i think the units will help you determine order

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Re: Finding out order

Postby smurphy1D » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:50 am

Units are useful because each order reaction has different units

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Re: Finding out order

Postby Madelyn Romberg 1H » Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:31 am

Units correlate to the reaction order to ensure the final units work out. Hence, the units for the rate constant will indicate the rate order.

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Re: Finding out order

Postby CalvinTNguyen2D » Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:31 pm

For each different order, the rate constant will have its own units. If you can determine the units that the constant has, you can deduce the reaction order.


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