Determining slow step


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Determining slow step

Postby Carolina Gomez 2G » Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:27 pm

How do you know if one of the reactants is not involved in the slow step? How do we determine which of the reactants is the slow step?

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Dylan_K_3B » Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:19 pm

Only reactants in the overall rate law are part of the slow step. If a reactant in the chemical equation is not present in the rate law, that means it is part of the fast step. To determine the slow step, it will either be provided that a particular elementary reaction is the slow step, or it can be indicated by the step with the greater activation energy.

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Ashley Lopez 3J » Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:44 pm

Reactants are only ever part of the slow step if they are in the overall rate law, which is a determinant of a slow step.

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Riddhi Mehta 2C » Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:45 pm

Thus far, we have learned that the reactant in the overall rate law are the reactants in the slow step. Basically looking at the overall reaction tells you what the reactants are for the slow step equation.

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby MMorcus2E » Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:44 am

Yeah, I agree with what was said so far. The reactants that are left after canceling out intermediates and end up in the overall equation are the ones that are from the slow step. Also, the reactants in the slow step should match the ones in the rate law.

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Chinmayi Mutyala 3H » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:45 am

You look at the overall reaction. Anything that isn't in the overall reaction is an intermediate.

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Joshua Chung 2D » Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:15 pm

If the reactants of the slow step are not given, just keep in mind that they will always be a part of the rate law.

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Alexandra Ahlschlager 1L » Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:23 pm

Intermediates which are produced first and then consumed will not be included in the rate law even if they are in the slow step. To answer your second question, the slow step will have the highest activation energy and its reactants will be in the final rate law. Hope this helps!

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Stephanie Zhang 2K » Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:30 pm

yes, you usually look at the overall rate law and see which reactants are part of it, and then match that to the elementary step which also has the same reactants. Or, the problem would give you the slow step. Only the reactants in the slow step are included in the rate law. If you see a reactant in the slow step rate law that isn't part of the overall reaction reactant, that usually indicates that the reactant may be an intermediate, in which case you'd have to use the pseudo-rate law (solve for the concentration of that reactant using the fast equilibrium step before the slow step and plug that in to the slow step rate law).

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Shruti Kulkarni 2I » Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:32 pm

You can tell if a reactant is part of the slow step if it is present in the overall rate law, as that only includes the reactants in the slow step.

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby David Liu 1E » Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:42 am

The slow step should have the highest activation energy, and you would also find the products of the slow step in the final reaction!

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Jacob Schwarz-Discussion 3I » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:19 pm

I usually can tell by knowing that the reactants in the slow step are part of the overall rate law.

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby David Jen 1J » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:23 pm

Many questions will straight up tell you which step is the slow step, but in case it doesn't, the slow step tends to make up the overall rate law.

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby JoshMoore2B » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:41 pm

Carolina Gomez 2G wrote:How do you know if one of the reactants is not involved in the slow step? How do we determine which of the reactants is the slow step?


I think it is safe to assume that the slowest step will be outlined for us.

If not, then you can find the rate laws for each step and compare it to the overall. Since the slow step is the rate determining step, it will match the overall rate law.

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Jack_Pearce_2H » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:59 pm

Usually they will tell you which one is the slow step. If it is not given in the problem, the step whose rate law which resembles the primary rate law is the slow step. You can identify intermediates because they do not appear in the primary rate law.

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Gicelle Rubin 1E » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:14 pm

Stephanie Zhang 2K wrote:yes, you usually look at the overall rate law and see which reactants are part of it, and then match that to the elementary step which also has the same reactants. Or, the problem would give you the slow step. Only the reactants in the slow step are included in the rate law. If you see a reactant in the slow step rate law that isn't part of the overall reaction reactant, that usually indicates that the reactant may be an intermediate, in which case you'd have to use the pseudo-rate law (solve for the concentration of that reactant using the fast equilibrium step before the slow step and plug that in to the slow step rate law).


thank you! i think i finally understand :)

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Diana Aguilar 3H » Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:24 pm

The way you know if one of the reactants is part of the slow step is if they are part of the overall rate law, but usually the question will tell you.

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Shana Patel 1C » Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:42 pm

The slow step should have the highest activation energy.
You would also find the products of the slow step in the final reaction.

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Moura Girgis 1F » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:34 pm

It is only when they are in the overall rate law that the reactants are involved in the slow step.

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Taha 2D » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:36 pm

the reactants shown to be in the rate law are the ones which are involved in the slow step

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Jacob_Eberson_2D » Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:11 pm

the reactants in the rate law are those in the slow step

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Saatvika Nair » Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:15 pm

Reactants will be in the slow step if they are part of the overall rate law, otherwise they won't be. You can tell if a reactant won't be in the slow step, because no intermediates are in the overall rate law. Then that means that they must be in the fast step.

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Re: Determining slow step

Postby Zoe Dhalla 3I » Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:03 pm

The overall reaction rate depends almost entirely on the rate of the slowest step. If the first step is the slowest, and the entire reaction must wait for it, then it is the rate-determining step. he slowest step of a chemical reaction can be determined by setting up a reaction mechanisms. Many reactions do not occur in a single reaction but they happen in multiple elementary steps. But usually, reactants that are shown in the rate law are the ones that are involved in the slow step.


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