units for E=hv


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units for E=hv

Postby Jaden Haskins 2E » Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:42 am

Hi! When calculating E=hv, how do yo9u know if it is in J/photon or J/atom? I was doing some hw problems (1B #7 and 9) and one was in J/atom and the other was in J/photon, so I was wondering why you can do this and how to tell when to use which set of units.

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby Akash J 1J » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:13 am

Jaden Haskins 2F wrote:Hi! When calculating E=hv, how do yo9u know if it is in J/photon or J/atom? I was doing some hw problems (1B #7 and 9) and one was in J/atom and the other was in J/photon, so I was wondering why you can do this and how to tell when to use which set of units.


I am not entirely sure, but whatever you end up with, it should be in Joules. So, if you are calculating the energy of a photon, you are going to end up with J/photon. I'm not sure where J/atom comes in, but in general you'll end up with J/(unit)

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby Mikayla Kwok 3K » Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:06 pm

I think E=hv is used for electromagnetic radiation, so it should be generally used with the units J/photon. However, if the problem makes a comment about one atom being associated with one photon, I think that's when you would use J/atom.

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby CesarLec1 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:03 pm

It can be J/photon or J/atom, depends on the context and what the question is looking for.

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby Olivia Monroy 1A » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:06 pm

By default I think we assume is it J/photon as that is what the energy equation is telling us, energy of incoming photon, but it could be J/atom I guess in another case, it would be made clear.

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby Erika Sosa-Cruz 1J » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:41 am

It depends on what the question is asking ( wording) however, I would think for the final he would want us to convert it to Joules.

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby Morgan Gee 3B » Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:29 am

Using the equation E - hv, you get joules/photon. This allows us to calculate the amount of joules per mol and other similar units using dimensional analysis.

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby 805593945 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:31 am

E=hv is specifically for photon/radiation so it'll be J/photon.

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby David Liu 1E » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:12 pm

I think it's normally j/photon, but you would check with the question to make sure because sometimes it can change to j/atom

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby Diana Aguilar 3H » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:16 pm

I thinks it's mostly going to be j/photon, but it can also be j/atom, it really depends on the question.

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby Joshua Swift » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:47 pm

Depending on the question, the units can either be J/photon or J/atom.

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby Mauricio Maravilla 3C » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:46 pm

Joules per photon would be if the question is talking about an incoming light source and joules per atom probably refers to the energy released by each atom when light excites it. Hope this helped

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby joshua_quinn_1C » Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:10 pm

Hello! The units depend on what the question is asking for and the context of the scenario as well. However, most of the time the units will most likely be J/photon since we are using this equation to find the energy of the photon during the photoelectric effect.

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby Tracy Tran 3L » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:45 am

Diana Aguilar 3H wrote:I thinks it's mostly going to be j/photon, but it can also be j/atom, it really depends on the question.



If we are expected to find J/Photon would any additional calculations need to be made or would we just need to change the units?

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby Rainy Liu Ruoshui_2K » Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:49 pm

Because E=hv is applied to photoelectric effects, v is the frequency of the light. Thus, the unit should be E/photon but not E/atom.

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby Divya Mehta 2K » Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:42 pm

The answer should be given in joules, and since we are dealing with photoelectric particles, it would usually be in joules/photon or joules/atom

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby Jiayin Yola Yan 1G » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:37 pm

Jules. Because energy always ends in Jules and the units of v and h cancels out, leaving only the J.

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby Arden Napoli 1E » Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:21 pm

I think the units in this case depends on how the question is worded and the values that are given to you in the context of the problem. For instance if moles are mentioned in the wording of the question, it will most likely be J/atoms, but I think usually the units are J/photon if there is not an explicit mentioning of something other than photon.

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby Ashley Johnson 2G » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:04 pm

Would the use of photon or atom depend on what you need to cancel out in order to end the problem with J?

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby Madison Yee 2B » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:25 pm

Generally, E=hv is referring to the joules of energy per photon. However, depending on the problem at hand, you can use this information to calculate values such as the energy of the electrons emitted.

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby Alessandra Marotta 3L » Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:46 pm

As others have stated, I believe it is dependent on the what the question is asking for. Some questions are asking about calculating the energy of a photon, so in that case the units would be J/photon. It can be J/atom if the question is specifically asking about atoms, but I think it is typically J/photon.

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Re: units for E=hv

Postby William Huang 1K » Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:47 pm

For the equation in particular you are finding the J/photon but in E = hv - phi or other variants it could change because the latter equation is the kinetic energy of the electron that is ejected.


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