units for E=hv
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units for E=hv
Hi! When calculating E=hv, how do yo9u know if it is in J/photon or J/atom? I was doing some hw problems (1B #7 and 9) and one was in J/atom and the other was in J/photon, so I was wondering why you can do this and how to tell when to use which set of units.
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Re: units for E=hv
Jaden Haskins 2F wrote:Hi! When calculating E=hv, how do yo9u know if it is in J/photon or J/atom? I was doing some hw problems (1B #7 and 9) and one was in J/atom and the other was in J/photon, so I was wondering why you can do this and how to tell when to use which set of units.
I am not entirely sure, but whatever you end up with, it should be in Joules. So, if you are calculating the energy of a photon, you are going to end up with J/photon. I'm not sure where J/atom comes in, but in general you'll end up with J/(unit)
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Re: units for E=hv
I think E=hv is used for electromagnetic radiation, so it should be generally used with the units J/photon. However, if the problem makes a comment about one atom being associated with one photon, I think that's when you would use J/atom.
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It can be J/photon or J/atom, depends on the context and what the question is looking for.
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By default I think we assume is it J/photon as that is what the energy equation is telling us, energy of incoming photon, but it could be J/atom I guess in another case, it would be made clear.
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Re: units for E=hv
It depends on what the question is asking ( wording) however, I would think for the final he would want us to convert it to Joules.
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Re: units for E=hv
Using the equation E - hv, you get joules/photon. This allows us to calculate the amount of joules per mol and other similar units using dimensional analysis.
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Re: units for E=hv
I think it's normally j/photon, but you would check with the question to make sure because sometimes it can change to j/atom
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I thinks it's mostly going to be j/photon, but it can also be j/atom, it really depends on the question.
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Re: units for E=hv
Joules per photon would be if the question is talking about an incoming light source and joules per atom probably refers to the energy released by each atom when light excites it. Hope this helped
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Re: units for E=hv
Hello! The units depend on what the question is asking for and the context of the scenario as well. However, most of the time the units will most likely be J/photon since we are using this equation to find the energy of the photon during the photoelectric effect.
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Diana Aguilar 3H wrote:I thinks it's mostly going to be j/photon, but it can also be j/atom, it really depends on the question.
If we are expected to find J/Photon would any additional calculations need to be made or would we just need to change the units?
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Re: units for E=hv
Because E=hv is applied to photoelectric effects, v is the frequency of the light. Thus, the unit should be E/photon but not E/atom.
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Re: units for E=hv
The answer should be given in joules, and since we are dealing with photoelectric particles, it would usually be in joules/photon or joules/atom
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Re: units for E=hv
Jules. Because energy always ends in Jules and the units of v and h cancels out, leaving only the J.
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I think the units in this case depends on how the question is worded and the values that are given to you in the context of the problem. For instance if moles are mentioned in the wording of the question, it will most likely be J/atoms, but I think usually the units are J/photon if there is not an explicit mentioning of something other than photon.
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Would the use of photon or atom depend on what you need to cancel out in order to end the problem with J?
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Re: units for E=hv
Generally, E=hv is referring to the joules of energy per photon. However, depending on the problem at hand, you can use this information to calculate values such as the energy of the electrons emitted.
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Re: units for E=hv
As others have stated, I believe it is dependent on the what the question is asking for. Some questions are asking about calculating the energy of a photon, so in that case the units would be J/photon. It can be J/atom if the question is specifically asking about atoms, but I think it is typically J/photon.
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Re: units for E=hv
For the equation in particular you are finding the J/photon but in E = hv - phi or other variants it could change because the latter equation is the kinetic energy of the electron that is ejected.
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