HW 15.49


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Madison Fischer 1F
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HW 15.49

Postby Madison Fischer 1F » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:11 pm

For part b of this question it asks for the rate law and the answer in the solutions manual says that the rate for step 2 equals k2[HBR][HOBR] however HOBR is an intermediate. I thought you weren't suppose to include the intermediate in the rate laws???

Marvin Lu 1E
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Re: HW 15.49

Postby Marvin Lu 1E » Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:45 am

While the intermediate is part of rate 2, it is not the overall rate of the reaction. The intermediate is apart of the fast step 2, and we know that the slowest step determines the rate of the overall reaction. It is when the intermediate is apart of the overall rate that we must substitute it out.

Jason Muljadi 2C
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Re: HW 15.49

Postby Jason Muljadi 2C » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:30 am

So, if it was the slow step, would we then disregard HOBr? And it's because the slow step determines the overall rate of the reaction right?

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Re: HW 15.49

Postby KayleeMcCord1F » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:47 am

What's an example of a situation when an intermediate would be considered in the overall rate law?

Matthew Lin 2C
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Re: HW 15.49

Postby Matthew Lin 2C » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:41 pm

KayleeMcCord1F wrote:What's an example of a situation when an intermediate would be considered in the overall rate law?

An intermediate would never be in the overall rate law. You would have to substitute it out using the pre-equilibirium approach.

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Re: HW 15.49

Postby Gurkriti Ahluwalia 1K » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:39 pm

since the question is still asking you for the rate law of each step, it is appropriate to include the intermediate molecule in the rate law since it is part of the reaction in step 2.


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