Psuedo First Order

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Giselle1B
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Psuedo First Order

Postby Giselle1B » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:09 pm

What is psuedo first Order and how is it related to the first order process?

Ariel Cheng 2I
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Re: Psuedo First Order

Postby Ariel Cheng 2I » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:16 pm

A pseudo first order reaction is like a second order reaction that acts like a first order reaction under certain conditions.

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Re: Psuedo First Order

Postby Douglas Nguyen 2J » Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:01 pm

A pseudo rate is considered when there are too many changing concentrations. For instance, it is difficult to calculate the rate when you have k[A][B], and both A and B are changing. As such, you make one significantly larger so that the rate becomes dependent on only the other.

For this example, let's say [A] is significantly larger than [B]. Because of that, the pseudo rate is k'=[B]

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Re: Psuedo First Order

Postby Eesha Sohail 1D » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:28 am

So this concept is generally used in the gathering of experimental data?

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Re: Psuedo First Order

Postby Noe BM 1J » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:42 pm

Is the rate always going to depend on the reactant with smallest concentration?

Douglas Nguyen 2J wrote:A pseudo rate is considered when there are too many changing concentrations. For instance, it is difficult to calculate the rate when you have k[A][B], and both A and B are changing. As such, you make one significantly larger so that the rate becomes dependent on only the other.

For this example, let's say [A] is significantly larger than [B]. Because of that, the pseudo rate is k'=[B]

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Re: Psuedo First Order

Postby Andrew Yoon 3L » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:25 pm

Noe BM 1J wrote:Is the rate always going to depend on the reactant with smallest concentration?

Douglas Nguyen 2J wrote:A pseudo rate is considered when there are too many changing concentrations. For instance, it is difficult to calculate the rate when you have k[A][B], and both A and B are changing. As such, you make one significantly larger so that the rate becomes dependent on only the other.

For this example, let's say [A] is significantly larger than [B]. Because of that, the pseudo rate is k'=[B]


I think it's the one with the smaller concentration because you just want to focus on one concentration rather than have 2 different concentrations that are changing.

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Re: Psuedo First Order

Postby Lawrence Tran 2H » Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:19 pm

This is just a question posed towards anyone, but are there any example problems involving pseudo first order (or is this concept even tested at all?

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Re: Psuedo First Order

Postby LianaHernandez1F » Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:42 am

When concentrations are changing at an excessive rate, a pseudo rate is taken into account. For instance, figuring out the rate when both A and B are changing and you know k[A][B] is challenging. In order to make the rate reliant only on the other, you make one much greater.


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