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Class Grading

Postby Jaci Glassick 2G » Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:14 pm

"Each test and exam has a total score but is not assigned a grade. Only at the end of the class when the class average score (out of 500 points) is known are final grades assigned. This class does not use a curve. Group learning (Chemistry Community, Study Groups, Peer Learning, etc.) is encouraged. 50% or higher is required to pass with a C- or higher."

This brief quote is taken from the syllabus. After the midterm, I wanted to review the grading system for the class. So if I'm understanding this correctly, letter grades will be assigned at the end of the quarter and they will be based around the class average of points? Please correct me if I'm wrong! Thank you!

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Chem_Mod » Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:55 pm

correct

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Alexa Hernandez 3k » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:06 pm

Correcto!
I'm not sure how that would exactly work though...

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Re: Class Grading

Postby emma brinton_3B » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:32 am

does this mean the class is on a curve?

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Celine 1F » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:07 am

you're right!

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Michelle Chan 1J » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:04 am

How exactly does this work? So is the class curved in the end?

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Re: Class Grading

Postby AKhanna_3H » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:11 am

The class is not curved and letter grades are not assigned to tests and midterms. At the end of the quarter Dr. Lavelle will create the cutoffs for A/A-/B+ etc. depending on what the end points are. This means that to get an A in the class you may have to get a different percentage than the standard 93%. It all depends on what the overall grades are at the end and where he decides to do the cutoffs, so just try your best throughout the quarter!

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Claire Grover 3G » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:42 pm

Yes! Even though we get a point score for every test we won't find out the actual letter grades until the end of the quarter.

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Lizette Noriega 1H » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:14 pm

Yes, that's correct. The grades will be dependent on the number of points and the cutoffs made by Dr.Lavelle with regards to the class average

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Re: Class Grading

Postby KayleyW_3L » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:26 pm

The good thing is he will never curve down, only up.

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Madeline Phan 1E » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:38 am

So for our midterm, we will just get a raw score for now?

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Angela Prince 1J » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:14 pm

KayleyW_3L wrote:The good thing is he will never curve down, only up.


Wait, so is there a curve or not?

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Sjeffrey_1C » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:07 pm

I think when he says there isn't a curve he means a bell curve, meaning there isn't a specific grade distribution he wants. But it does seem like he will be curving the class, or not using a standard grading scale. This way if the overall grades aren't very high, he will shift the cutoffs so that people do better in terms of their overall grade!!

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Yailin Romo 4G » Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:36 pm

it says on the syllabus that to pass the class you only need half the points thus 250 out of the total possible points in the class which is 500

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Hailey Kim 4G » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:07 pm

Madeline Phan 4H wrote:So for our midterm, we will just get a raw score for now?


Yes. Today in lecture, Professor Lavelle said that midterm scores will be released next Wednesday.

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Salma Fawzi 4G » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:34 pm

On the syllabus it mentions students need half the points to pass the class, so does that mean that the class is curved up?

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Yailin Romo 4G » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:36 pm

It's not curved but if you are worried about passing then you only need half the points so 250/500 to pass the class.

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Yailin Romo 4G » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:36 pm

It's not curved but if you are worried about passing then you only need half the points so 250/500 to pass the class.

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Ian Morris 3C » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:45 pm

It can be curved up if the class percentage is much lower than anticipated so I wouldn't count on it. I would focus on getting at just the 250 points required for the C- is your main goal is just to pass.

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Chanel D_4E » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:47 pm

I think you only need 250/500 to pass the class with a C-

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Chanel D_4E » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:55 pm

Does anyone know how many points a B- would be per se if 250/500 is a C-?

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Re: Class Grading

Postby JohannaPerezH2F » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:58 pm

it's not on a curve but if in total points you accumulate 250 points or more then you have a passing grade

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Re: Class Grading

Postby GEOVANNAO_3F » Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:10 pm

so to clarify, the class is not curved, but a grade is assigned at the ended based on the class average?

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Re: Class Grading

Postby KayleyW_3L » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:55 pm

GEOVANNAO_3F wrote:so to clarify, the class is not curved, but a grade is assigned at the ended based on the class average?

Yes, this is correct.

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Re: Class Grading

Postby pJimenez3F » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:30 pm

yes correct

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Re: Class Grading

Postby 205150314 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:09 am

So how can we try to figure out the grade we might get? or si there no way of finding that out right now

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Re: Class Grading

Postby 205150314 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:14 am

205150314 wrote:So how can we try to figure out the grade we might get? or si there no way of finding that out right now


If the midterm average was like a 75 then what would be considered an A for that test if the professor based the grading scheme on the average?

Cindy Adiwidjaja 1B
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Re: Class Grading

Postby Cindy Adiwidjaja 1B » Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:17 pm

I saw from previous years' posts that Lavelle also adds 10 points to every one's score out of 500. I do not know if this is still true, but this popped up a lot in Chemistry Community.

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Re: Class Grading

Postby KayleyW_3L » Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:27 am

Cindy Adiwidjaja 1E wrote:I saw from previous years' posts that Lavelle also adds 10 points to every one's score out of 500. I do not know if this is still true, but this popped up a lot in Chemistry Community.

Wow that would be very nice of him! So it's kind of like extra credit? I hope he does this

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Annie Ye » Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:59 pm

Cindy Adiwidjaja 1E wrote:I saw from previous years' posts that Lavelle also adds 10 points to every one's score out of 500. I do not know if this is still true, but this popped up a lot in Chemistry Community.

That would be great if he does curve the points!

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Aman Sankineni 2L » Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:19 pm

I hope he ends up curving the class.

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Re: Class Grading

Postby 504939134 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:41 pm

I hope this is true! But yeah I have heard that his final grades are curved but test aren’t.

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Claire Grover 3G » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:34 pm

Yes I believe that is correct!

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Abigail Menchaca_1H » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:07 pm

Let's hope it gets curved!

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Elizabeth Johnson 1I » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:15 pm

lets pray there is a curve/grade shift

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Rosa Munoz 2E » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:15 pm

Hope there’s a curve!

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Re: Class Grading

Postby chimerila » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:32 pm

Sjeffrey_1C wrote:I think when he says there isn't a curve he means a bell curve, meaning there isn't a specific grade distribution he wants. But it does seem like he will be curving the class, or not using a standard grading scale. This way if the overall grades aren't very high, he will shift the cutoffs so that people do better in terms of their overall grade!!


Thank goodness, bell curves are the absolute worst.

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Cindy Adiwidjaja 1B » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:41 pm

After having taken the class, I can confirm that there is no curve. The amount of points you receive is the exact grade you get in the class. The only "curve" he does is gives you a C- if you get at least 250 points.

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Jaklin Astvatsatryan » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:27 am

Cindy Adiwidjaja 1B wrote:After having taken the class, I can confirm that there is no curve. The amount of points you receive is the exact grade you get in the class. The only "curve" he does is gives you a C- if you get at least 250 points.


I can second this and that getting a 250 points gives a C-

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Cindy Adiwidjaja 1B » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:40 pm

Jaklin Astvatsatryan wrote:
Cindy Adiwidjaja 1B wrote:After having taken the class, I can confirm that there is no curve. The amount of points you receive is the exact grade you get in the class. The only "curve" he does is gives you a C- if you get at least 250 points.


I can second this and that getting a 250 points gives a C-



Thank you for backing me up!

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Re: Class Grading

Postby VioletKo3F » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:10 pm

Is it possible to get a lower letter grade after the curve? For example, if I have a 450/500 (90%), is it possible that I'll get a B+ because the class average is too high?

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Annie Chantasirivisal_4G » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:54 pm

VioletKo3F wrote:Is it possible to get a lower letter grade after the curve? For example, if I have a 450/500 (90%), is it possible that I'll get a B+ because the class average is too high?


He doesn't curve down, only up! Even if the class average was high, he'll just use a straight scale at that point and make 90% an A-.

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Patricia Cardenas » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:03 pm

Cindy Adiwidjaja 1B wrote:After having taken the class, I can confirm that there is no curve. The amount of points you receive is the exact grade you get in the class. The only "curve" he does is gives you a C- if you get at least 250 points.


This is correct based off of my experience with Lavelle last quarter.

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Alan Cornejo 1a » Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:52 pm

This is correct, although the only real curve is that you need 250 points to pass the class with a c-

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Re: Class Grading

Postby Anna Chen 1K » Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:16 pm

I agree, you will get a C- if you get at least 250 points.


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