## Curve?

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Celio_G_Dis2C
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### Curve?

So the syllabus says that a 50% is required o pass the class with at least a C- but at the same time, "there's no curve" is what I've been hearing from most students so if I have a 75% in the class it'll remain the same but if I get a 50% it'll jump up to 70%?

Courtney Quan 1C
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### Re: Curve?

Note that the syllabus says, "Each test and exam has a total score but is not assigned a grade. Only at the end of the class when the class average score (out of 500 points) is known are final grades assigned. This class does not use a curve." Your final grade will be determined at the end of the course, when the class average is known.

allisoncarr1i
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### Re: Curve?

Does that line in the syllabus also mean that anyone who receives over 50% of the points will pass?

deniise_garciia
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Marina Gollas 1A
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As of now with what he stated in the syllabus, if you were to receive about 250/500 points, you will pass the class with a C-, so if you have a 75%, then that means it might average up to a B or B+, depending as the student above said, on the class average. This what is some people in the class were saying when I asked them this question. :) hope this helped.

Jeannine 1I
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allisoncarr1i wrote:Does that line in the syllabus also mean that anyone who receives over 50% of the points will pass?

Yes, this means that as long as students get 50% (250/500 points), they will pass the class with a C- (:

Lynsea_Southwick_2K
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### Re: Curve?

Last quarter w Lavelle, same grading system, I ended with 344/500 and that resulted in a C. I think it depends on the class averages.

Liliana Aguas 3G
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Yes, it is all just based on the class average so technically there is no curve.

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Once a class average is determined at the end, the grades will be adjusted, I think.

Patricia Cardenas
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selatran1h
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The class is technically not curved, but rather scale based. So depending on what the overall class average is, the scale will be shifted and grades will be assigned accordingly I'm pretty sure.

Yiyang Jen Wang 4G
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I think it depends on the class average at the end of the quarter.

Megan Kirschner
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Since it depends on class average at the end of the quarter- does that sort of mean you can't calculate your grade at all throughout the quarter?

Angela Prince 1J
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As long as you receive half the points in the class, you will pass with at least a C-, but the actual letter grades will vary each quarter depending on class averages (which is why he waits until the end to decide grades).

Jamie Hwang 2F
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I think if you do a straight scale where 450/500 to 500/500 points is an A- to A+ and so on, then you could get some idea of your grade because I'm pretty sure if there is a curve it can only help and not hurt your grade.

805291863
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### Re: Curve?

If I remember currently from the beginning of last quarter, Dr. Lavelle mentioned that there is the possibility of a curve at the end of the quarter if the grade distribution deems it necessary. Also, if there were to be a curve, it would only help your grade, not hurt it.

RobertXu_2J
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There is no direct curve on the test, but Lavelle adjusts the grading scheme as needed depending on the performance of students overall on test

Naren_Ramesh_4F
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Keerthana Sivathasan 2E
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Usually, even if he does help curve at the end a little bit, it's only about 1-2%, so nothing drastic. I would suggest to just keep trying your best and hope for the best.

805291863
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Especially considering that the class average for this midterm was a bit higher than last quarter's, I think it is currently highly unlikely for a significant curve

gabbymaraziti
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There is no specific guideline for this, Lavelle just "curves" according to the final, total class averages. Not much hope though, considering the average on the midterm was fairly high.

JChen_2I
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I think grades are adjusted a bit at the end of the quarter based on the class averages. When I had him last quarter, my final grade ended up being a bit higher than my point total would've been.

Omar Selim 1D
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There is no curve in the class, but points and grade correlation are not determined until after the final exam has been posted. Your scores on the tests are not indicative of what your final grade will come out to be as Dr. Lavelle might adjust it slightly at the end of the quarter depending on what the class average ends up being.

Elizabeth Bowen 1J
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I talked to Lavelle during office hours and he said yes, 50% is a C-, and if you get something above, like 70% or something similar, it depends on the class grades when the class is over what that percentage would correlate to grade-wise, but it will most likely be higher than a C-.