Culinary Chemistry

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Aditya Sundaram 3D » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:54 am

Sarah Huh 1K wrote:ahah boba is getting me through this class :(


Boba is the one thing getting me through the pandemic lmao. If i was asked to sum up my life at the moment, I would legitimately say boba + UCLA.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Sebastian2I » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:42 pm

Apparently the legendary French chef Fernand Point made his apprentices fry eggs over a candle to impress upon them the delicacy of the process (Source: Raymond Sokolov's How to Cook). What an interesting thermodynamics question this would make!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Sebastian2I » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:46 pm

Remaining on the subject, if anyone is looking to improve their egg-cooking, Tasty made a great video on how to prepare five different kinds of eggs. I've tried a few myself and found these methods quite effective:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5oD_thIk3c

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Andrew Dao 3C » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:13 pm

Wow interesting perspective. I only know a couple of recipes for cooking so far, so hopefully as I learn more chemistry I can cook more as well.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Sebastian2I » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:45 pm

Does anyone have any good tips for preventing rice from getting stuck to the bottom of the pot?

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Lillian » Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:28 am

Sometimes I think about food theory/chemistry and how foods that are seemingly completely different can work together very well if they just share the same compounds. I've seen some really strange combinations but they work, so hey! :)

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby 305614361 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:08 pm

I think this is cool and reminds me of an article I read once that talks about how even slicing an apple sets off chemical reactions that change the color of the apple's flesh. I think it's very interesting how chemistry directly relates to cooking and they are a lot of other scenarios.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby 305614361 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:20 pm

Sebastian2I wrote:Does anyone have any good tips for preventing rice from getting stuck to the bottom of the pot?


Usually, I would recommend getting a nonstick pot
Where is an amazon link where you can get one cheap: https://www.amazon.com/Utopia-Kitchen-Q ... 665&sr=8-6
But if you don't want to get that I would recommend adding olive oil or coconut to the water when boiling because a creates a lipid-like barrier to stop the starch from being stuck to the bottom of the pot.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Raashi Chaudhari 3B » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:39 pm

I love seeing chemistry applied to the real world! It is so interesting to identify day to day things that involve chemistry; even cooler that I now understand all some of the chemical reactions that are occurring!!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Hannah Biju 1E » Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:23 pm

One of the most interesting things I've learned about food chemistry is the Maillard reaction, which is basically the chemical reaction between amino acids and reducing sugars that makes browned food taste good. When I began to cook for myself I always wondered why recipes would say to brown the meat before using it because I thought as long as it why would it matter, but after watching a few food videos I learned about the Maillard reaction and how it makes meats have a deeper flavor profile, and I thought that was really cool.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Hannah Biju 1E » Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:37 pm

Another really cool thing I've found out is that theoretically, peanut butter can be made into diamonds because it is incredibly rich in carbon. If the oxygen was extracted from the CO2 in peanut butter and immense pressure was applied, peanut butter could turn into diamonds!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Kaleb Tuliau 3E » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:49 pm

I have always wondered what the boba "balls" are made of! I had boba for the first time a month ago and have come to like the texture of them but they truly do taste like nothing

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby 905579227 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:03 pm

Sebastian2I wrote:Having once shattered a thin glass jar as I tried to heat its contents over a stove, I can personally attest to the importance of this.

yea you always have to wait for the glass to cool slowly

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby 905579227 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:38 pm

@Sebastian, if that offer still stands I'd love to be involved

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Vance Liu » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:12 pm

Lorena_Morales_1K wrote:This is so fascinating, I am not much of a cook myself but I definitely want to start to cook and make connections to the chemistry we're learning because it sounds super dope.

Cooking is such a good way to really see chemistry in action. plus, its fun!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Vance Liu » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:14 pm

have yall ever blown up a hardboiled egg in the microwave before? why does that happen?

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Alan Nguyen 2I » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:32 pm

After seeing the original post in this thread, I immediately thought to my previous job as a waiter before moving to Westwood! The FDA and local county health department has many regulations in place about how food should be stored, what temperatures it must be heated to, etc. We always had to use certain solutions in cleaning or to wipe down certain surfaces. It all comes back to chemistry and the way different substances interact with each other or how they react to temperature. One of the many great real-world applications of chemistry!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby 505706331 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:48 pm

Alan Nguyen 3H wrote:After seeing the original post in this thread, I immediately thought to my previous job as a waiter before moving to Westwood! The FDA and local county health department has many regulations in place about how food should be stored, what temperatures it must be heated to, etc. We always had to use certain solutions in cleaning or to wipe down certain surfaces. It all comes back to chemistry and the way different substances interact with each other or how they react to temperature. One of the many great real-world applications of chemistry!


I also worked in the food industry prior to moving here and followed the same food safety guidelines. I remember seeing a whole binder of papers that talked about certain cleaning supplies that could not mix due to the toxic reactions that may occur. It is definitely fascinating how everything around us is somehow linked to chemistry.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby 705573518 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:49 pm

Kathrine_Samia_1A wrote:
Kaley Qin 1F wrote:If you're interested in learning more about the science behind baking and chemistry, I would totally recommend watching a TedEd video about the science of cookies! That video got me interested in baking in the first place since I was excited to learn the science behind it. And as a reward for learning, I got delicious desserts!


I did not know that! Thank you for sharing this I'm going to do that now :)


Thank you for sharing! I’m super into baking and just watched this and it is so interesting and actually incredibly informative. So excited to apply this knowledge to my next batch of cookies! These types of things really make chem a more fun experience.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Anisa Subbiah 14B 1L » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:19 pm

I'm a freshman and can't really cook right now, but even reading these replies is making me wish I could! I never really paid attention to the close connection between cooking and chemistry (especially some of my favorite dishes) but now I can't stop seeing it.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Kimberly_martinez2I » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:29 pm

Nane Onanyan 1G wrote:This can also be extended to baking!! I like to experiment with cookies, because every single ingredient can completely alter your cookie! Since baking soda is a base (sodium bicarbonate as we know), it is often used in recipes that use some kind of acid like lemon juice in order for your product to rise properly. Without the acid, baking soda makes your cookie spread. Baking powder is made of the same base plus another acid (also with a stabilizer that keeps them from reacting until liquid is added), so the CO2 it creates will ensure a fluffier, cakey cookie. A combination of the two will make the best of both worlds.

I have experimented with bread because of the chemical reaction with the yeast. Without yeast the bread will never rise because carbon dioxide is not being expelled from the bread. I learned this the hard way when I first tried to make bread with my mother who also had never made bread before. When the yeast is added to the dough it reacts with the sugar which produces CO2 and makes the bread rise. Later I also learned that a great substitute for yeast is baking soda since it reacts with liquid or heat to produce CO2 which causes the bread to fluff up.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby madeleinewright » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:35 pm

Sebastian2I wrote:
Charlie Russell 2L wrote:Oh wow! Very interesting to see you put Chem to action and apply it to real world stuff!

I suck at cooking but maybe once I get a little further in Chem, I'll be the next Gordon Ramsey???


If you're just getting started I would recommend YouTube for some great instruction in kitchen techniques. Channels like Pro Home Cooks really help if you're trying to make cooking work as a student with a busy schedule. In terms of cookbooks, Raymond Sokolov's "How to Cook" and "Cook's Canon" are excellent starters. He's easy to understand and he keeps a good amount of humor in his writing :)


I might be a little old-fashioned but I really like using cookbooks! If you know some basic cooking techniques cookbooks are usually really easy to use. If you don't know anything about cooking, though, I definitely recommend using Youtube to learn.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Jeremiah Leonor 1J » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:50 pm

Chemistry can also be used in knowing how certain food may go together.

Very interesting!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Jane Wang 1E » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:34 pm

Can someone explains why vegetables turn brown/dark after I put vinegar into the plate? Thanks!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Nandini_Parmar_1I » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:23 pm

Jane Wang 3J wrote:Can someone explains why vegetables turn brown/dark after I put vinegar into the plate? Thanks!

I believe since vinegar is super acidic this happens. However, if you are trying to preserve fruits/vegetables and prevent them from browning, try putting a little bit of vinegar or lemon juice in some water. This will help reduce the pH on the surface of the fruit and reduce the amount of oxygen the fruit is exposed to, thus preventing browning. Browning occurs through oxidation once peeled/opened and even overtime.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby sadiebrebes » Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:29 pm

Aditya Sundaram 3D wrote:
Sarah Huh 1K wrote:ahah boba is getting me through this class :(


Boba is the one thing getting me through the pandemic lmao. If i was asked to sum up my life at the moment, I would legitimately say boba + UCLA.



Do you like the boba at rendevous? Or do you go to westwood for that?

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Cory Poon 3G » Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:50 am

This is actually such a cool thread! I've baked for a while, so I've got a couple of tricks! As many of us know, acids and bases react to form bubbles in the form of carbon dioxide. So to give cakes and cupcakes more volume, you can usually use sour cream as a half-substitute for milk and while using that, use a little extra baking soda so that more carbon dioxide is released while baking. It'll help make your pastries rise just a little more to give you more of that OOMPH from the leavening agents. I can't wait to hear more about your cooking and baking tricks and applications from chemistry!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Wilson Zheng 1L » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:31 am

Culinary Chemistry is super dope! I remember our teacher making us a "chemistry" apple pie using basics we learned from esters (and it tasted like apple pie, but without the apples!)

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby MiaRosati3L » Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:51 pm

This is such a fun and interesting conversation! My personal application of biochemistry to cooking is making buttermilk from scratch. This is something I've had to do at home a few times when I did not have store-bought buttermilk on hand. Buttermilk that you can find in stores is made from milk with added lactic bacteria. In the commercial process of making buttermilk, the primary milk sugar, lactose, gets metabolized into lactic acid, which gives buttermilk its tangy taste. When making baked goods (ie. pancakes) that call for buttermilk, the lactic acid reacts with the bicarbonate in the self-raising flour to produce carbon dioxide gas. Simply put, it's the lactic acid (an acid, hence the name) present in buttermilk that helps counteract baking soda (a base).

The following molecules are found in buttermilk: 1: Citric acid 2: α-ketoglutaric acid 3: Orotic acid 4: Pyruvic acid 5: Succinic acid 6: Lactic acid 7: Acetic acid 8: Uric acid and 9: DL-pyroglutamic acid. Lactic acid was the most abundant organic acid in buttermilk samples, with an overall average concentration of 7050 μg/g, according to a study published in the Wiley Online Library (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/ful ... 0307.12236). Moreover, according to the Australian Academy of Science, "buttermilk also includes a molecule called diacetyl (or butanedione) that is often produced as a by-product of fermentation. It is one of the molecules that make butter taste like butter (the other main ones are acetoin and acetylpropionyl). This gives your pancakes that gorgeous buttery taste without the extra fats." You can read more about the acid-base reaction of buttermilk here if you are curious: https://www.science.org.au/curious/peop ... fy-pancake

To make your own buttermilk at home, you just add an acid, such as lemon juice or vinegar, to regular milk. The basic ratio is 1 tablespoon of your acid of choice to 1 cup of milk to produce one cup of buttermilk.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Lucy Farnham 1G » Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:09 pm

Ayesha, that is a good point about salt increasing the boiling point of water. Does anyone know why that is? I think it might have something to do with the density of the salt...?

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Katie Shi 1F » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:46 pm

I remember reading that putting soft bread with hard cookies is supposed to soften them up, as the cookies absorb some of the water from the bread. I haven't tried it yet but can anyone fact check? I feel like that sounds too good to be true.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Joseph Lee » Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:29 pm

Hey All!

I'm unsure if someone has said this already, or if this even relates, but a trick I do know in the kitchen is when it comes to preparing... (drumroll) ONIONS! It's incredibly easy to prevent the onslaught of tears, all you have to do is place a wet paper towel on your cutting board while you cut. The quick release by cutting mixed with the new exposure to air creates a chemical called Syn-Propanethial-S-Oxide. This super complicated name just means that the gas is really attracted to water, and usually the quickest port is your eyes. Anyways, if you're ever in a quick pinch and don't feel like crying over onions, use that trick!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Harrington Bubb3A » Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:40 pm

I never really thought of that! I think it would be really cool to understand what the chemistry of spicy food is and what chemicals make our mouths feel hotter.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Sarah Wang 1I » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:28 pm

Harrington Bubb3A wrote:I never really thought of that! I think it would be really cool to understand what the chemistry of spicy food is and what chemicals make our mouths feel hotter.


I actually did a research project in high school about spicy food (because I love it so much :))! For hot peppers, I believe the heat is from a chemical called capsaicin. I also wonder why some people enjoy eating spicy food/can tolerate it more than others; maybe it's because their bodies react differently to capsaicin? Anybody know?

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Alejandra Hernandez 2A » Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:28 pm

George Kaleb Jimenez 1K wrote:Bon Appetit has an awesome youtube channel too and they tie in chemistry facts as to why they do certain things while cooking so it's really cool!! My favorite one from their staff is Claire <33


I've seen that show!! I also really enjoyed that you were learning some very interesting chemistry facts while learning some cool recipes. I remember once I watched an episode where they talked about mass and temperature conversions when using a foreign recipe and it was very interesting to see chemistry and cooking work together.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Niyati 1F » Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:35 pm

I think it is so interesting how our sense of taste is almost entirely based on the chemistry of our taste buds.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Alejandra Hernandez 2A » Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:00 pm

105714861 wrote:Hey All!

I'm unsure if someone has said this already, or if this even relates, but a trick I do know in the kitchen is when it comes to preparing... (drumroll) ONIONS! It's incredibly easy to prevent the onslaught of tears, all you have to do is place a wet paper towel on your cutting board while you cut. The quick release by cutting mixed with the new exposure to air creates a chemical called Syn-Propanethial-S-Oxide. This super complicated name just means that the gas is really attracted to water, and usually the quickest port is your eyes. Anyways, if you're ever in a quick pinch and don't feel like crying over onions, use that trick!


I find it so interesting how many things in our daily lives that cause inconveniences can be fixed with a little bit of science! This hack is so interesting because it is essentially trapping the gas in the wet napkin before it reaches the eye because it becomes the closest source of water. Very interesting hack thanks for sharing!!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Travis Wang 2G » Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:50 pm

The intersection between chemistry and biology in food is amazing to think about. I suppose chemistry is a foundation for biology, but the relationship is really clear with regards to chemical interactions being responsible for taste. There was a reply above that mentioned capsaicin and that's a great example how molecules can affect us.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Junyong Wu » Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:54 pm

It is much more interesting to learn chemistry by combining it with cooking and baking!!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby 305723807 » Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:32 pm

wow so interesting

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Dev Patel 1H » Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:32 pm

105714861 wrote:Hey All!

I'm unsure if someone has said this already, or if this even relates, but a trick I do know in the kitchen is when it comes to preparing... (drumroll) ONIONS! It's incredibly easy to prevent the onslaught of tears, all you have to do is place a wet paper towel on your cutting board while you cut. The quick release by cutting mixed with the new exposure to air creates a chemical called Syn-Propanethial-S-Oxide. This super complicated name just means that the gas is really attracted to water, and usually the quickest port is your eyes. Anyways, if you're ever in a quick pinch and don't feel like crying over onions, use that trick!



Wow this is a really interesting idea that I never thought would work! I must now try it out to see whether this is real or just a hoax. I know that there is chemistry behind this, so I know this is just gonna be real, but why not try it out! I also never knew that the quick release is exposing gases with the chemical called Syn-Propanethial-S-Oxide, that is definitely interesting to hear and I would love to learn about this chemical much more. Thank you for posting this to Chemistry Community!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Holland Smith 3C » Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:52 pm

Wow this is such a fascinating thread!! this makes me think of making Radicchio salad with my dad. Radicchio is super bitter, so we will put the leaves in a salt water ice bath. It helps pull out some of the bitter compounds via osmosis (hence why we use the salt, and the ice keeps the leaves crunchy and from wilting). It works amazingly and doesn't take too long! highly recommend with a balsamic vinegar based salad dressing!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby 205769933 » Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:47 pm

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned yet, but Adam Ragusea on YouTube does a great job of explaining the science behind food!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Divya Mehta 2K » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:07 pm

This forum is fascinating to read! I competed in an event called "Food Science," through Science Olympiad and every year the focus was a different category of foods (ie: dairy, grains, etc). The year we focused on dairy, I learned many things about the chemistry of dairy and processes of coagulation, the structure and formula of whey and casein proteins, and even how to determine the calories in a particular food via calorimeter. Perhaps the most useful thing I learned while studying for this event was all the information about the 4 macromolecules and their chemical structures that lead to their unique properties

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Lexi Tempera 3B » Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:42 pm

Hey Sebastian!

I too love cooking and chemistry!! A simple but fun one that I think about often is salting the water before you add pasta. Not only is this for flavor (side note: items that will be in water longer require less salt in the water (osmosis (not the most chemistry-related topic so I shall digress))) but also it increases the vapor pressure of the water. It does this because when salt is dissolved into water, it dissociates into Na+ and Cl- ions. These ions physically get surrounded (for lack of a better word) by the partial positive and partial negative ends of H2O molecules, forming a "wedge" between water molecules. THIS makes it so that it is harder for H2O molecules to escape from liquid form to gas form, thus raising the boiling point of water.

You probably remember this from high school chem, but if not, enjoy :)

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Tianle Zheng » Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:12 am

Oh, wow! It's cool when we start to use apply chemistry in daily life. I personally love to cook as well, and a very easily used piece of chemistry in the kitchen for me is making icecreams.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Polo Morales 3C » Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:33 am

I also find it pretty impressive that we subconsciously learned a few of the very basics of chemistry as children through the process of cooking or watching others cook. (ex: melting solids by adding heat, combustion, etc)

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Jesse Amaya » Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:44 am

This is interesting! All cooking is just chemical reactions so understanding chemistry will help us understand something like how an egg fries, which we overlook. I wanted to add on by asking how we can use our chemical understanding of cooking to eat healthier or make the most out of food? For example, a chemical understanding gave us the ability to come up with an air fryer instead of using oil.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby 805774026 » Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:04 am

That's cool! I am learning how to cook as well, and it feels fantastic to hear from someone sharing the same interest!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Jane Wang 1E » Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:05 am

Nandini_Parmar_1I wrote:
Jane Wang 3J wrote:Can someone explains why vegetables turn brown/dark after I put vinegar into the plate? Thanks!

I believe since vinegar is super acidic this happens. However, if you are trying to preserve fruits/vegetables and prevent them from browning, try putting a little bit of vinegar or lemon juice in some water. This will help reduce the pH on the surface of the fruit and reduce the amount of oxygen the fruit is exposed to, thus preventing browning. Browning occurs through oxidation once peeled/opened and even overtime.


Will the fruit cells get oxidised faster due to there are vinegar on them?

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Jane Wang 1E » Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:06 am

805774026 wrote:That's cool! I am learning how to cook as well, and it feels fantastic to hear from someone sharing the same interest!


I am interested in cooking as well!! But I don't think I am talented in it haha

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Jane Wang 1E » Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:08 am

sadiebrebes wrote:
Aditya Sundaram 3D wrote:
Sarah Huh 1K wrote:ahah boba is getting me through this class :(


Boba is the one thing getting me through the pandemic lmao. If i was asked to sum up my life at the moment, I would legitimately say boba + UCLA.



Do you like the boba at rendevous? Or do you go to westwood for that?


I recommend the Boba at the third floor of UCLA store! Try half sugar though~

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby VZX » Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:35 am

I'm always amazed when a tiny bit of yeast is added to a dough and become activated, the dough can grow twice as big or even more. The chemistry behind is that the yeast feeds on the sugar in flour (ferments) and releases carbon dioxide to make dough rise. But it's interesting that baking soda has similar effect but allows the dough to rise at a much different rate (faster) than what yeast would accomplish. Leaving the dough with yeast for too long can also result in the dough shrinking again!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Julia Todorov 2F » Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:57 am

This post reminded me of a college essay I wrote during application season where a student wrote about how baking chocolate chip cookies got him so interested in chemistry. It was such an amazing essay and I'm pretty sure he ended up in Stanford or some crazy Ivy! I feel like we really tend to forget how much chemistry comes up in our daily lives.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Emma Goellner 2I » Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:17 pm

I think the chemistry behind cooking an egg is really interesting. When you boil an egg, for instance, you might notice a slight green film around the yolk. That's because a chemical reaction involving sulfur from the egg white and iron from the egg yolk. If there's a lot of iron in the cooking water, or you overcook the egg, this can happen.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Carlie_Dorostkar_1A » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:11 pm

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2_TFO ... m0RcOV8RWw

This youtube channel called Chemical Kitchen that has discussions about the science behind cooking and fundamentals that cross over between the lab and the kitchen. I enjoyed watching a kitchen myth one where a chefs and chemists proved or debunked myth in the kitchen and explained what really occurs. They also have cook alongs that were live and now saved if anyone is looking for simple recipes to follow.

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Postby Carlie_Dorostkar_1A » Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:06 pm

I have also been interested in when oil should be added to a pan and at what temperature. My dad has ways of doing things in the kitchen that he thinks are the right way, and has done research one how to keep non stick pans in good shape. I've wondered why metal on non stick pans tends to make the pans loose there non stick properties and qualities. I also want to know why oil should be added when the pan is hot enough (also what exactly is hot enough) so that the non stick material is preserved.

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Postby Kirsten Yu 2K » Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:46 pm

I find it fascinating how prevalent chemistry is in baking. I never put much thought into it until quarantine happened, and my friend and I picked up baking as a hobby. We started by baking cakes, something I now realize is actually an endothermic chemical reaction. This is because heat helps the baking powder produce tiny bubbles of gas, in turn making the cake light and fluffy. Moreover, heat causes protein from the egg to change and make the cake firm.

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Postby AJackman » Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:57 pm

Reminds me of my older brother showing off to my siblings and I by putting a super hot pan under the sink to show us how the water "floats" on the surface. Come to find out it's something called the Leidenfrost effect, where because the pan is actually hotter than the boiling point of of water, the bottom of the droplets actually vaporize before they hit the pan, creating the floating effect.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby daniellediem1k » Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:13 pm

I think it is so fascinating that literally everything can relate back to chemistry! Even cooking/baking. I think it’s a great analogy when doing limiting reactant problems to think of them as ingredients for a recipe!

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Postby 605607825 » Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:15 pm

Chemistry really is found all around us and affects almost every if not all aspects of our everyday lives! We use chemistry all the time such as in cooking! Our bodies are constantly undergoing reactions as well! Today I cleaned my kitchen sink with a mixture of baking soda and vinegar. This post made me think about chemistry and how it is involved in our lives and that was when I realized that I created a chemical reaction of my own earlier!

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Postby 605733348 » Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:58 pm

Chemistry knowledge can be found everywhere in our daily life!

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Postby Wenhan Li_3d » Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:18 pm

Great idea. I think the sequence of blending materials is also important. I have not studied such topics beforehand but I love cooking and "mastered" in some asian foods .I'm very confident that in some traditional asian dishes that sequence is critical so I will learn more about it later when I study more about this class.

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Postby Emily Wan 1l » Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:10 pm

Samantha Low 3D wrote:My family has an ongoing debate if adding salt to pasta water makes the water boil faster or slower. The argument for faster is that adding salt disrupts the surface tension of the water, and contributes to it boiling faster. The argument for slower is that salt raises the boiling point of the water, and thus the water takes longer to boil. Either way, we agree that pasta cooks faster when salt is added because the boiling point is higher so the temperature of the water is higher.


These arguments are so interesting! I've always thought that adding salt would not affect the boiling time of pasta, considering that the amount being added is so small!

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Postby Giselle Simmons 2D » Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:14 pm

This is not necessarily involved with cooking, but it applies to the kitchen! I always remember when my family cleaned the kitchen with bleach, my mom would warn us not to put the bleach next to the ammonia in the cleaning supply closet. This is because when combined, bleach and ammonia release toxic chloramine gas. It is very harmful and a potential occurrence that everyone should be aware of.

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Postby Emily Wan 1l » Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:15 pm

Love this thread! One thing I have recently began to do is add vinegar when I am boiling or poaching eggs. The acid in the vinegar prevents the water from spilling out of the pot if a shell breaks and helps with the coagulation of the egg whites.

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Postby Giselle Simmons 2D » Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:20 pm

I always thought the chemistry behind baking bread and having it rise was super interesting. Yeast in an ingredient of bread, which is a single-celled fungi which helps to convert sugars in the bread mix into carbon dioxide. Bubbles from the carbon dioxide are what cause the bread to physically rise.

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Postby Giselle Simmons 2D » Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:25 pm

Emily Wan 3A wrote:Love this thread! One thing I have recently began to do is add vinegar when I am boiling or poaching eggs. The acid in the vinegar prevents the water from spilling out of the pot if a shell breaks and helps with the coagulation of the egg whites.

Emily-
That's such a cool tip I had never heard of! I am definitely going to try that as well as tell my mom about it because she often boils eggs.

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Postby Giselle Simmons 2D » Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:26 pm

daniellediem3j wrote:I think it is so fascinating that literally everything can relate back to chemistry! Even cooking/baking. I think it’s a great analogy when doing limiting reactant problems to think of them as ingredients for a recipe!

A limiting reactant is a great analogy. For example, I used to bake cookies with my dad every Friday night. Sometimes, we wanted to make two batches but we only had one bag of chocolate chips. Therefore, our supply of chocolates chips limited how much product we could have.

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Postby 805829316 » Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:22 pm

Actually I learned awhile ago that you can un-boil an egg using chemistry and thought it was pretty cool.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby GoldDigger » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:07 am

Sabine Salvucci 2E wrote:Something I recently learned was the difference between heat-safe and regular glass. Heat-safe glass (like the kind you can use oven, eg. Pyrex) is made of borosilicate glass, which has a low coefficient of thermal expansion and therefore is less likely to break at high temperatures. I think this is more related to physics but it definitely reminded me of specific heat capacities which we are learning about in Chem14B! Basically, just make sure to check if your glass is heat-resistant or it could shatter.


Yea once my mom and I were cooking on the stove, and we put a glass lid on top of a pan and didn't think anything of it. Less than five minutes later we heard a loud shattering noise, went to check on our chicken we were cooking, and it was just covered in broken glass from the lid. We had to order take out after, but I'm not complaining loll.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby GoldDigger » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:08 am

805829316 wrote:Actually I learned awhile ago that you can un-boil an egg using chemistry and thought it was pretty cool.


Wait howww??? I would love to actually try to do that just for fun.

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Postby 105784203 » Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:20 am

Sebastian2I wrote:Hey all! I have recently begun teaching myself to cook and have been amazed at how directly the lessons of general chemistry apply to the kitchen. This past weekend I was reading about how you shouldn't blend hot mixtures because the blades will release steam easily causing nasty burns and remembered how the comparative severity of steam burns is due to the fact that more energy is required to break bonds in water molecules than to heat water to the same temperature. This isn't all, though. From thinking of recipes in terms of stoichiometric coefficients to neutralizing the ammines in fish with citric acid, cooking is full of fun bits of chemistry that I find absolutely fascinating! If anybody else is also learning, has any enlightening experiences or tips to share, or has any interesting chem lessons to be found in the kitchen I would invite you to drop them here. Recipes, hacks, stories, all welcome! Maybe we can get something good going!

Hello, I have been cooking for a while and have never considered going into molecular gastronomy, I think that's what culinary chemistry is all about! I hope you dive well into this topic!

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Postby 905715668 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:27 am

Also, in baking, cream of tartar and baking soda start two different chemical reactions within a mixture thus creating different textures.

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Postby 905715668 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:27 am

Also, in baking, cream of tartar and baking soda start two different chemical reactions within a mixture thus creating different textures.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby 905715668 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:28 am

205769933 wrote:I don’t know if it’s been mentioned yet, but Adam Ragusea on YouTube does a great job of explaining the science behind food!

I love his videos!!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Allison Mercado-3F » Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:41 pm

The science of cooking and baking is so cool! My last chem teacher was really into cooking so he'd use food as examples a lot!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby 205769933 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:34 pm

905715668 wrote:
205769933 wrote:I don’t know if it’s been mentioned yet, but Adam Ragusea on YouTube does a great job of explaining the science behind food!

I love his videos!!


Yesssss his videos are so good and I love how iconic his “why I season my cutting board not the steak” video is <3

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby LillianHarvey2C » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:52 pm

This thread is so cool, I like to bake and that's also how I realized the amount of similar skills needed in both the chemistry and culinary professions. That's how I learned that solids and liquids when cooking have to be measured using two different sets of measuring cups because the quantities change for each.

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Postby Nicola Higgins 14B » Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:45 pm

I was reading about the "adding salt to pasta" debate and I have always been taught that it cooks the pasta faster and more evenly, but I don't think the water boils as quickly. Regardless, I do notice it makes the pasta taste better! :)

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby akemiwebster2G » Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:53 pm

Yes! Chemical reactions are constantly happening, either through manipulation or emulsification, and the heat suppresses harmful bacteria as well.

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Postby Charlie Sjogren-Black » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:34 am

305405193 wrote:What in chemistry makes flavors in food taste different other than heat?


Your tongue has receptors for different chemicals. The chemical makeup of a certain food determines the flavor and is interpreted by your tongue.

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Postby Alejandra Hernandez 2A » Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:24 pm

Sabine Salvucci 2E wrote:Something I recently learned was the difference between heat-safe and regular glass. Heat-safe glass (like the kind you can use oven, eg. Pyrex) is made of borosilicate glass, which has a low coefficient of thermal expansion and therefore is less likely to break at high temperatures. I think this is more related to physics but it definitely reminded me of specific heat capacities which we are learning about in Chem14B! Basically, just make sure to check if your glass is heat-resistant or it could shatter.


Wow, this is really interesting! I have always wondered what makes some glass dangerous in the oven and other glass heat safe. It is so cool to be able to not only learn about all of these interesting topics in chemistry but also be able to apply them to our everyday life.

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Postby Alejandra Hernandez 2A » Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:32 pm

805829316 wrote:Actually I learned a while ago that you can un-boil an egg using chemistry and thought it was pretty cool.


What!? That seems so cool, I'll definitely have to look up how to do this and maybe even attempt it, this is such an interesting concept I would have never guessed it was possible to 'un-boil' and egg.

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Postby Alejandra Hernandez 2A » Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:46 pm

Polo Morales 3C wrote:I also find it pretty impressive that we subconsciously learned a few of the very basics of chemistry as children through the process of cooking or watching others cook. (ex: melting solids by adding heat, combustion, etc)


Yes! It has been so surprising to see how many chemistry concepts are intertwined in our daily lives and are so 'simple' that we don't even realize they are related to chemistry at all.

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Postby Jeremy 3B » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:15 pm

That's so cool. I find it fascinating how stuff we're learning in the classroom is already affecting us in the real world before we even graduate. Because you took this course you better understand why blending hot mixtures is bad where as someone who's never studied chemistry only knows blending hot mixtures is bad because they were told it was bad but they may not know exactly why it is. I don't really cook that much but maybe I should try soon if it means I get to apply what I learned in class to real life.

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Postby Maddy Trotter 3D » Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:56 pm

This is a cool topic! I started a club at my high school called Food Chem Club and we structured every meeting around a different culinary chemistry topic! I thought the meeting we had about preserving meats was super cool, maybe something to look up for anyone interested! We also had a tasting portion after the meeting, which was really fun :)

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Postby Maddy Trotter 3D » Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:58 pm

Also!! We had a meeting about baking with copper bowls, and how they are better for whipping eggs, meringue, whipping cream, etc because they give you stable peaks and the ingredients are less likely to denature

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Vance Liu » Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:46 pm

For any aspiring cooks out there,

Binging with Babish and Josh Weissman are two of my favorite youtubers. They are very in-depth and go through complex recipes step by step. Binging with Babish is more into the how of cooking while Josh is just funny. Check them out!

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Postby Jacob Kirkosian 3C » Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:47 pm

Fun fact: The Maillard reaction causes the browning on foods such as meats and vegetables and is the result of a reaction between amino acids and reducing sugars.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Diana peng 3I » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:39 pm

I had some pasta for lunch today, and I just realized, the trick that we put a wooden spoon(with coding on it ) on boiling water so water wouldn't spill. If the coding of the wood spoon is hydrophobic that means water can't attract to it, that is keep the boiling water from spilling out the pot.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Violet Mbela 2B » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:08 pm

Valerie Tran 2B wrote:When you melt sugar and water into invert sugar syrup, it is a hydrolysis reaction that can be sped up with catalysts such as cream of tartar or lemon juice. I never thought about it but I do make a lot of syrup so it's interesting to see the chemistry in action and I have this thread to thank for that.

p.s. be careful when making it because it will burn you badly. Sugar is hot when melted.


Hey Valerie!

For those reactions, why are cream of tartar or lemon juice catalysts? Is it because of their pH levels or is some other component of their composition that makes them react? Thank you for the cool info!

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Brianna Mercado 3D » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:18 pm

Ceviche has also always been one of those dishes that fascinates me because of the chemistry behind it!
Aimee Alvarado 3J wrote:
Sabrina Galvan 3J wrote:I always found ceviche to be an interesting dish! It's essentially letting raw shrimp marinate in an acidic base (oxymoron haha) mainly composed of lemon or lime juice. The citric acid causes the proteins in the shrimp to go through denaturation, changing its physical and chemical properties so that it becomes "cooked" without any heat! I am not a fan of sea food, but anytime my family makes this I always serve myself a small helping as a way to celebrate the cool science behind it.


Yes, my family also does this! I always wondered how it was cooked without actually being cooked.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby 505705039 » Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:06 am

almost_ethan wrote:For some reason, I always find myself stress-baking during finals week--just to get my mind off things.

I also do this! It gives a nice break and it is so fun reading through culinary chemistry (I'm getting new baking ideas).

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Postby 505705039 » Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:11 am

tholz11 wrote:Speaking of culinary chemistry, if anyone has any recipes that can be made with ~microwave~ radiation let me know. Dorm life is a struggle.


Mug cakes are so fun and easy to make in the microwave! here is a link to one: https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/24103 ... -mug-cake/

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Postby 505705039 » Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:15 am

Nane Onanyan 1G wrote:Yesterday, I brought a bag of sliced apples for lunch with me but by the time I got to eat it, it was already browning. Then I remembered how my mom used to cover apples with lemon juice to keep them fresh all day long! The acidity of the lemon slows down the browning because ascorbic acid reacts with the oxygen before the oxygen can react with the enzymes in the fruit.


WOW! this makes so much sense and is so cool. I am going to try it soon.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby 505705039 » Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:15 am

If you are looking for more on Chemistry and cooking this book https://open.umn.edu/opentextbooks/textbooks/485 goes over the fundamentals of chemistry and how it is in cooking.

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Anthony_Rio_3K » Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:39 am

Related to this topic...why do bad things happen when putting metal in the microwave?

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby JohnathanH_1H » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:57 pm

Valerie Tran 2B wrote:When you melt sugar and water into invert sugar syrup, it is a hydrolysis reaction that can be sped up with catalysts such as cream of tartar or lemon juice. I never thought about it but I do make a lot of syrup so it's interesting to see the chemistry in action and I have this thread to thank for that.

p.s. be careful when making it because it will burn you badly. Sugar is hot when melted.


Not to bring up Squid Game, but the Dalgona candy where you melt the sugar and add baking soda is very similar in the sense that it causes a reaction, making the sugar mixture bubble and foam almost before it stops reacting and relaxes

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Re: Culinary Chemistry

Postby Daniel N » Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:22 am

I've been needing new recipes to try! Fruit caviar here I come.


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