Lyman Series

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Lyman Series

Postby Rayna Irving 3H » Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:06 pm

If the Lyman Series is ever mentioned in a problem should we just assume E(final) is 1?

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Giselle Granda 2 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:13 pm

Yes, the ground state for the Lyman series is always 1, so your n1 or nfinal is equal to 1.

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby David Chibukhchian 1H » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:52 am

Yeah, we should assume that the final energy state in the Lyman series is n=1. This is because the jump from n=1 to other energy levels requires a lot of energy, specifically from light in the UV region (which is where the Lyman series is found). Since the Balmer series is visible light and thus can't really provide enough energy to bring the electron up from n=1, we should make this assumption about the Lyman series.

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby sophie esherick 2K » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:56 am

Yes like the other peers mentioned we should assume that the final energy state or your n1 in the Rydberg Eqn. Lyman series is n=1. This is because when you working with in the Lyman series, you are talking about the UV region. This area is higher energy than other series, for example n=2 which is the Balmer series and visible light region.

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Anna Yakura 3E » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:58 am

From what some of the TAs said, just assume n=1 is somewhere in the equation. I think whether its nfinal or ninitial depends on whether its an emission or absorbtion. If emission, since it is going back to the lower state, n=1 would be the final. If absorbtion, because the electron is being excited up to an energy level, n=1 would be the initial. Hope this helps!

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Alara Aygen 2E » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:14 am

Hi! If it is Lyman series, n=1 should be in the equation. However, don't assume it only has to be the final state. If the e- is absorbing energy than n=1 is probably the initial state. Similarly, if e- is emitting energy than n=1 is probably the final state. Hope this helps!

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Alara Aygen 2E » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:15 am

Hi! If it is Lyman series, n=1 should be in the equation. However, don't assume it only has to be the final state. If the e- is absorbing energy than n=1 is probably the initial state. Similarly, if e- is emitting energy than n=1 is probably the final state. Hope this helps!

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Katie Le 2K » Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:08 pm

Yes Lyman ends with n=1. Balmer ends with n=2

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Haochen He 3L » Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:39 am

Yes, if it is Lyman series n1 should be 1

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Jared Limqueco 1H » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:28 pm

Lyman series is always n=1 but not always n(final)=1. It's UV light too

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Daniela_Martinez_3B » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:31 pm

Yes! Remember that anything in the UV region involves n=1, anything in the visible region involves n=2, and anything in the infrared region involves n=3.

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Jalaia Jackson 2J » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:44 pm

This is how I remembered it: The Lyman series corresponds to UV light and the electrons rest at the energy level n=1. While the Balmer series corresponds to visible light and the electron's rest at the energy level n=2.

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Jaden Joodi 3A » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:51 pm

You would only assume this if the it was an emission spectrum problem. If it was an absorption problem, you would assume that n=1 is the initial.

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Immi Lee - 2F » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:16 pm

I would say you cannot necessarily assume that E(final) = 1, because depending on the question they may be asking based on the absorption or emission spectrum, but definitely one of the energy levels is n=1!

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby sabrina ghalambor 1E » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:24 pm

yes it should end in n=1! Lyman corresponds to UV light so it has a higher energy level

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Andre Fabian 1G » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:29 pm

Yes, the Lyman series always ends in n=1 (ground state), while the Balmer series always ends in n=2.


Hope this helps!
Andre Fabian

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Nathan Chu 1J » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:36 pm

Yes, the Lyman series involves an an electron moving down to the n=1 energy level or up from the n=1 level. However, you cannot assume that the value is for n(final), as the problem could be describing emission or absorption.

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Julianna_flores3L » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:50 pm

The Lyman series is the UV so n1=1 while the baller series is in visible light so n1=2.

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Lauren Strickland 2a » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:56 pm

Yes for the Lyman series n1=1

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Gian Boco 3G » Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:40 pm

Yes, but for future references, keep in mind that this is for Hydrogen atom only.

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Ralph Zhang 2L » Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:43 pm

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby AlbertGu_3G » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:08 pm

Adding on to other answers, the Balmer series would be n=2 and the Paschen series would be n=3. Hope this helps!

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Grace_Remphrey_2G » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:15 pm

If the problem mentions the Lyman Series, there should be an n=1 somewhere in the equation. The Lyman series is in the ultraviolet while the Balmer series is in the visible and the Paschen, Brackett, Pfund, and Humphreys series are in the infrared.
Hope this helped!

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Aria Movassaghi 2k » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:11 pm

Since Lyman Series is talking about Uv region, you should assume n1=1

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby 305572629 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:21 pm

Always remember: Lyman series N1 is 1 and Balmer series N1 is 2.

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Ethan Goode 3H » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:22 pm

Yes, lyman series has much more energy. As the gap from n2 to n1 is the largest gap of energy, lyman will always end up at n1 since it has the most energy.

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby America Ramirez 3H » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:58 pm

Yes, Lyman =1 and Balmer =2.

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Jacob Schwarz » Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:31 pm

Yes, if they Lyman series is mentioned, you should assume n=1 as the final state.

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Michelle Nguyen 2C » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:53 am

Yes, with the Lyman series, just assume that the final stage is n=1!

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby Karina Grover 1K » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:08 pm

In Lyman series, the final principal quantum number/energy level is always n = 1.

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Re: Lyman Series

Postby DPatel_2L » Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:09 pm

Yes for that series n1=1


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