Threshold energy

Moderators: Chem_Mod, Chem_Admin

Angela_Li_1J
Posts: 52
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:09 am

Threshold energy

Postby Angela_Li_1J » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:21 pm

Are threshold energy and work function the same thing in the equation E (photon) - work function = kinetic energy ? If not, what is threshold energy?

Emily Engelkemier 1E
Posts: 105
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:10 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Emily Engelkemier 1E » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:30 pm

Yes, threshold energy and work function are the same thing!

Ashley Tonthat 2B
Posts: 105
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:09 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Ashley Tonthat 2B » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:34 pm

Hi Angela,

Threshold energy and work function mean the same thing. They basically mean the minimum amount of energy needed to remove/eject an electron. Hope this helps.

Meia Schram 1J
Posts: 52
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:03 am
Been upvoted: 1 time

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Meia Schram 1J » Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:06 pm

Yes they are exactly the same thing in terms that they both represent the lowest amount of energy of a photon to emit an electron from a metal. The reason why they don't use Threshold instead of Work Function when writing it out I think is just a preference thing? I could be wrong and there is some deep scientifical meaning but I'm like 97% sure it's all preference

Hope this helps!

Joshua Lance Yumul 1F
Posts: 52
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:09 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Joshua Lance Yumul 1F » Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:26 pm

I believe so, both threshold energy and work functions are the same! It is just like how we refer to wavelength as lambda or wavelength.

Nicole 3G
Posts: 55
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:01 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Nicole 3G » Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:42 pm

Yes, threshold energy and work function are the same thing. They both measure how much is needed to get the electron to get "out" of the metal surface (not including the kinetic energy after it is emitted though).

Ashley Presnell 1C
Posts: 112
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:06 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Ashley Presnell 1C » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:56 pm

In the equation we were given, the work function and threshold energy both represent the same thing in terms of energy necessary to excite an electron enough for it to eject the electron.

Monse Mata 3D
Posts: 100
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:36 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Monse Mata 3D » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:24 pm

Hey Angela! You're correct, threshold energy and work function basically mean the same thing.

Divya Mehta 2K
Posts: 110
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:28 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Divya Mehta 2K » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:26 pm

Hi Angela! Yes threshold energy and work function are essentially synonyms for the same thing, which is the lowest amount of energy required to excite an electron enough to eject it from a metal

Jane Wang 1E
Posts: 115
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:36 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Jane Wang 1E » Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:53 pm

Yes, the threshold energy and the work function energy is the same, they are the less amount energy that a metal surface need to emit an electron.

Madison Rhynhart 3H
Posts: 99
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:20 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Madison Rhynhart 3H » Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:54 pm

Yes! Threshold energy and the work function are the same thing they just indicate the minimum amount of energy needed to eject the electron from a metal.

Ivy Vo Dis 1C
Posts: 100
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:48 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Ivy Vo Dis 1C » Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:57 pm

Threshold energy and work function have the same definition. They are both the minimum amount of energy that is needed to eject an electron out from the surface of a piece of metal.

Kayla Arellano 1K
Posts: 102
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:55 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Kayla Arellano 1K » Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:10 pm

Angela_Li_1J wrote:Are threshold energy and work function the same thing in the equation E (photon) - work function = kinetic energy ? If not, what is threshold energy?


Yes, you are correct that threshold energy and work function are the same thing. They both describe the energy that is required to remove and electron.

Nick Oscarson 1K
Posts: 105
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:28 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Nick Oscarson 1K » Sat Oct 16, 2021 7:38 pm

Yes, in this equation threshold energy and the work function are synonymous. They essentially mean the amount of energy that it takes to eject an electron.

Matt Vargo 2D
Posts: 51
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:28 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Matt Vargo 2D » Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:37 pm

Yes, work function and threshold energy are synonymous with each other. In the case of the photoelectric effect, the work function/threshold energy is the amount of energy that is required to eject an electron off of a metal's surface.

Mahima Manoj 1F
Posts: 50
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:09 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Mahima Manoj 1F » Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:28 am

Hii,
As the other respondents have said, they are referring to the same thing!

Madelyn_Rios_2c
Posts: 110
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:54 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Madelyn_Rios_2c » Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:57 am

Threshold energy and work function are the same thing. They represent the minimum amount of energy needed to eject an electron.

Amanda Dankberg 1B
Posts: 95
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:35 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Amanda Dankberg 1B » Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:49 pm

Yes, threshold energy and the work function are the same thing :)

Nishan Reddy 3K
Posts: 131
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:28 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Nishan Reddy 3K » Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:56 pm

Yes, they both refer to the minimum amount of energy required to completely take the electron out of the quantized energy levels of an atom.

Mia Orr 3B
Posts: 103
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:11 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Mia Orr 3B » Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:29 pm

Yes, you are correct! In the equation E(photon) - work function = kinetic energy, the terms work function and threshold energy are interchangeable, as they both refer to the minimum amount of energy required to remove an electron.

Jocelyn Chin 1K
Posts: 104
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:12 am
Been upvoted: 1 time

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Jocelyn Chin 1K » Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:35 pm

They're the same thing! I think threshold is easier to visualize in my head though. Work function may refer to the term work from physics, which is also in joules.

Ben Broselle 3 I
Posts: 23
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:11 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Ben Broselle 3 I » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:08 pm

both are the minimum amounts of energy to eject an electron, so they are the same.

405479701
Posts: 98
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:03 am
Been upvoted: 1 time

Re: Threshold energy

Postby 405479701 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:09 pm

They both are the minimum amount of energy to remove an electron, so yes, they are the same.

Luke Hatch 1G
Posts: 50
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:48 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Luke Hatch 1G » Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:27 pm

Threshold energy and Work function are synonymous. Both are representations of the amount of energy needed to remove electrons from an atom. They are used in different calculations with different wavelength variables, so the distinction between threshold energy and work function is just within the context of the equations you are using.

sidneypalacios
Posts: 101
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:30 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby sidneypalacios » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:08 pm

Yes they are the same thing

505807269
Posts: 53
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:10 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby 505807269 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:14 pm

yes, threshold energy and work function mean the same thing. They both represent the lowest amount of energy needed to excite the electron to eject the electron.

Jennifer Kainth 3L
Posts: 103
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:11 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Jennifer Kainth 3L » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:15 pm

Yes, you are correct! They are the same.

Violet Mbela 2B
Posts: 98
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:15 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Violet Mbela 2B » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:19 pm

Hey all,
So do we have to do any conversions for the two thresholds, or are they in the same units?

Rhea Jain 2I
Posts: 99
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:11 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Rhea Jain 2I » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:41 pm

Yes, threshold energy and work function are the same thing.

505749458
Posts: 68
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:07 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby 505749458 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:44 pm

Yep, they're the same thing. It confused me at first too because the work function is just one value instead of a function like I would expect it to be. Does anyone know why the work function is called a function?

105605391
Posts: 125
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:30 am
Been upvoted: 2 times

Re: Threshold energy

Postby 105605391 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:46 pm

Yes threshold energy and the work function (phi) are the same variables in the E(photon) - E(energy removed) = E(excess function), where energy removed is the work function.

Anubhav_Chandla1G
Posts: 104
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:40 am
Been upvoted: 1 time

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Anubhav_Chandla1G » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:48 pm

Threshold energy and work function are the same thing. Threshold energy is the energy required to eject an electron from the atom.

almaortega
Posts: 104
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:54 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby almaortega » Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:07 am

Sometimes, threshold energy and kinetic energy are not the same! Threshold energy is always represented as phi and this is the minimum amount of energy needed to eject electrons. Kinetic Energy of e- are usually the actual amount of energy that an e- has.

Amy Shimizu 1J
Posts: 100
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:33 am
Been upvoted: 1 time

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Amy Shimizu 1J » Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:20 am

Yes, they are the same thing! The work function is the threshold energy, meaning how much energy is required for an electron to be emitted.

Emily Widjaja 3A
Posts: 57
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:38 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Emily Widjaja 3A » Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:25 pm

yes, they are the same. usually its threshold frequency through, not threshold energy.

Alice Weber 3I
Posts: 94
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:27 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Alice Weber 3I » Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:42 pm

Hi! As other people have said, it is the same thing.

Crystal Ma 2J
Posts: 100
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:04 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Crystal Ma 2J » Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:58 pm

Yes! Threshold energy and work function are the same thing!

Eric Sun 2G
Posts: 102
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:08 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Eric Sun 2G » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:24 pm

Threshold energy and work function are the same.

dahlia Faruque
Posts: 77
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:37 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby dahlia Faruque » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:47 pm

Hi, yes both threshold energy and the work function are the same things

haryn Shin 1H
Posts: 53
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:27 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby haryn Shin 1H » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:17 pm

Yes, threshold energy and the work function mean the same thing when calculating with the equation.

Natalie Quilala 1I
Posts: 105
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:28 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Natalie Quilala 1I » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:21 pm

Threshold energy is the same as work function. They both indicate the minimum amount of energy required for an electron to be ejected from a metal plate.

Abhinav Amanaganti 3K
Posts: 54
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:20 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby Abhinav Amanaganti 3K » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:32 pm

Threshold energy and work function represent the same thing: the amount of energy that is required for a photon to eject e- from a metal surface. Work function is used in the equation relating kinetic energy of emitted electrons and energy of incoming photon but you can also substitute threshold energy for the value of work function.

605607825
Posts: 110
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:17 am

Re: Threshold energy

Postby 605607825 » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:43 pm

Hello!
Like previously mentioned, the work function and threshold energy are pretty much the same! The work function however refers to the energy that must be inputted whereas the threshold energy is referring to the energy required for the frequency needed to eject and electron. When calculating to find their values, it will essentially be the same! I hope this helps!


Return to “Photoelectric Effect”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests