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Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:31 pm

Quiz 2 covers only Kinetics up to the end of page 73 in the course reader.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Derek Lee 2K » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:16 pm

Does quiz 2 just cover up to the end of kinetics? Is it cumulative?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Maya Kandah 3M » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:30 pm

From the quiz 2 preparation in the course reader, it seems that it will just cover kinetics.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Melanie Martinez 1K » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:53 pm

How many questions will be on quiz 2?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:00 pm

We are still working on quiz 2 (and working our tails off as the midterm was last night, and answering questions on Chemistry Community, etc., got home long after midnight).

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:44 am

Quiz 2 has 6 questions.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Sarai_Ferrer_3C » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:18 am

Hey guys, so does that mean that the concepts generally covered on the quiz include ad follows: 1st order, second order, third order, and 1/2 life? Thanks in advance for the clarification.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Winnie Liu 1M » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:31 pm

Yup! That's what is outlined in the coursereader :D

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby 704709603 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:04 am

Would it be possible to get the answers to the practice quiz please?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Kaitlin_Ryan_ 3K » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:52 pm

Will answers to the practice Quiz 2 in the back of the course reader be posted to Chemistry Community as the answers to practice Quiz 1 were?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Nikhita_Jaaswal_2H » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:18 pm

Will Quiz 2 also cover materials from before the midterm (in between Quiz 1 and midterm)?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Katie McCombs 3G » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:29 pm

Nikhita_Jaaswal_2H wrote:Will Quiz 2 also cover materials from before the midterm (in between Quiz 1 and midterm)?


No quiz 2 will only cover kinetics

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:46 pm

Quiz 2 Answers

1. 2 N2O5(g) → 4 NO2(g) + O2(g)
5.78 (mol NO2)⋅L–1⋅s–1

2. False

3. 2 N2O(g) → 2N2(g) + O2(g)
120 sec

4. first-order
2.00 s–1

5. has a rate that does not change much with temperature.

6. 0.30 M

7. 9.88×10−3 min−1 or 1.65 ×10−4 s−1

8. 6.06 min

9. D

10. false

11. 100 min−1

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Brian Huynh 3D » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:48 pm

How is question one done from quiz 2?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby 704709603 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:50 am

Can some one explain question 1 and 5 please? Also, can we do calculations with any unit of time?
Thank you!

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Diwana Lucero 3K » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:46 am

Brian Huynh 3G wrote:How is question one done from quiz 2?

When you balance the reaction, you get 2 mol N2O5, so you multiply the rate of decomposition of N2O5, 2.89, by 2 to get the rate of formation of NO2. So, this would be 2(2.89)= 5.78 (mol NO2)⋅L–1⋅s–1

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby nicoleclarke_lec1M » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:03 pm

Do we need to know how to do #9 and #11 from Quiz 2 Prep?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Annie Tagvoryan 3A » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:43 pm

I know the quiz covers material up to page 73 in the course reader, but does that correspond to up to 15.11 in our textbook?

Thanks.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Ariana de Souza 4C » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:54 pm

for number 8, is it okay if we express it in seconds, since the question gave the rate constant in seconds?
Additionally, do we need to know how to do numbers 5, 9, and 11 ? They all have to do with enzymes and the arrhenius equation, and i thought we didn't have to know that

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Leo_Navejas_3B » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:02 pm

For rxn mechanisms will we have to infer the intermediate for a rxn or will it be given to us?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Ariana de Souza 4C » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:04 pm

Leo_Navejas_3B wrote:For rxn mechanisms will we have to infer the intermediate for a rxn or will it be given to us?


Pretty sure the mechanism will be given to us. The intermediate will be the compound that is in the products of the first reaction and in the reactants of the second, and so will be canceled out -- it should be clear what it is

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Diana_Anum1G » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:45 pm

I know that quiz 2 covers up to page 73 in the course reader, but where does it cover up to in the homework problems? Is it up to 15.55 because 61 starts talking about activation energy?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Madison_Moore_1I » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:25 pm

Could someone explain to me how to do #6?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Ariana de Souza 4C » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:38 pm

Madison_Moore_1I wrote:Could someone explain to me how to do #6?



So this one you need to split into two problems. The first step will be to determine what k is.
1) you have your initial concentration (0.95 M) and your final concentration (0.44 M) and the time it takes (11 minutes)
you use your equation 1/(At) - 1/(A0) = k*t, and from there, find k.

2) now you know k. You now need your final concentration. You have your initial concentration (still 0.95 M) and your k and your time (21 minutes). So you plug everything into that same second order integrated equation, and you find At.
Hope that helps! :)

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:39 pm

nlc_lec1 wrote:Do we need to know how to do #9 and #11 from Quiz 2 Prep?


9 yes
11 no

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:41 pm

Ariana de Souza 4C wrote:for number 8, is it okay if we express it in seconds, since the question gave the rate constant in seconds?
Additionally, do we need to know how to do numbers 5, 9, and 11 ? They all have to do with enzymes and the arrhenius equation, and i thought we didn't have to know that


8 okay to give answer in seconds

5 no
9 yes (see comments on zero order reactions)
11 no

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Mannat Sukhija 1E » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:51 pm

Does anyone know on the dates of the first and last lecture that will be covered on Quiz 2?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Abigail_Low_1A » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:46 pm

Diana_Anum1G wrote:I know that quiz 2 covers up to page 73 in the course reader, but where does it cover up to in the homework problems? Is it up to 15.55 because 61 starts talking about activation energy?


Yes, I think so. That's where I stopped.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Morgan_McMasters_3A » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:52 pm

For #1, I used the unique rates with stoichiometric coefficients and set it up as -(1/a)(deltaA/deltat)=(1/c)(deltaC/deltat) and got -(1/2)(2.98)=(1/4)(x) would this be incorrect? I got -5.78mol NO2/L/s and I noticed the answer is +5.78.

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Quiz 2

Postby Calderon_Humberto_3E » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:23 pm

What will the quiz cover? Is it the content of the midterm till now or is it cummalative since day one?

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Re: Quiz 2

Postby Melanie Martinez 1K » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:31 pm

Calderon_Humberto_3E wrote:What will the quiz cover? Is it the content of the midterm till now or is it cummalative since day one?


The quiz only covers Kinetics, which up to the end of page 73 in the course reader.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:23 pm

Morgan_McMasters_3A wrote:For #1, I used the unique rates with stoichiometric coefficients and set it up as -(1/a)(deltaA/deltat)=(1/c)(deltaC/deltat) and got -(1/2)(2.98)=(1/4)(x) would this be incorrect? I got -5.78mol NO2/L/s and I noticed the answer is +5.78.


Rates are always positive values.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby 204177206 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:02 pm

Will Quiz 2 be 40 minutes as well, and of similar format as Quiz 1?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Madeline Fox 2B » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:10 pm

Will we have to derive equations for quiz 2?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Jaret Nishikawa » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:20 pm

Will it ask us to use specifically to use pre-equilibrium approach for reaction mechanisms or can we use either pre-equilibrium or steady state? Thanks

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby 104781135 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:33 pm

Hi everyone and sorry, this might be a dumb question, but will we need to know page 65 in the course reader? I don't want to be surprised if radioactivity shows up. Thank you so much!

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Jerry_Dar_3C » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:37 pm

Will we be quizzed on any reactions past second order? Or do we only need to know up to second?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby nicoleclarke_lec1M » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:58 am

Chem_Mod wrote:
nlc_lec1 wrote:Do we need to know how to do #9 and #11 from Quiz 2 Prep?


9 yes
11 no


could you please explain #9? It has to do with enzymes and I don't really know anything about them.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby 904621096 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:19 am

What is the unique rate of reaction?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Yasmine Choroomi 2C » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:26 am

Hi! I know you said we need to know number 9, but it has to do with enzymes and I thought we didn't need to know that?

Also are there any examples of using the equilibrium approach problems in the book?

Thanks :)

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017. Help on Quiz 2 Prep please!

Postby Kira_Maszewski_1B » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:53 am

It is important to distinguish between the reaction and the rate constant. The units of rate constant are always M * s^-1. True or False.

I think the answer is True, however I'm not sure about this question. Could someone please explain?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Arshia_Sabir_3E » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:37 pm

Can someone please help me with #3? I used the integrated rate law for first order and I got t=205 seconds

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017. Help on Quiz 2 Prep please!

Postby Christian Hardoy 3F » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:56 pm

Kira_Maszewski_1B wrote:It is important to distinguish between the reaction and the rate constant. The units of rate constant are always M * s^-1. True or False.

I think the answer is True, however I'm not sure about this question. Could someone please explain?


The rate constant can be M * s^-1 for zero order, s^-1 for first order, and M^-1 * s^-1 for 2nd order. The units of the rate are constant; it will be M * s^-1 for zero order, first order, and second order. Because the units of the rate are constant, k must change units when the reaction is a different order because there is another term in a 2nd order rate as compared to a 1st order rate. 1st order: Rate = k*[A], 2nd order: Rate=k*[A]^2. If the 2nd order rate is in M/s and the 1st order rate is in M/s, then k must be different because the 2nd order rate has an additional [A], which is in M.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Sarah_Kremer_1A » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:16 pm

Arshia_Sabir_3E wrote:Can someone please help me with #3? I used the integrated rate law for first order and I got t=205 seconds



For #3, it is a first order reaction, so you use the corresponding equation
ln[A] = -kt + ln[A0]
so, ln(.33) = -(.0068)t + ln(.75)
ln(.33/.75) = -.0068t
t = ln(.33/.75)/-.0068
t = 120 sec

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Morgan_McMasters_3A » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:27 pm

What parts of chapter 15 will be covered in the quiz? Only until 15.10 or..?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby ChristineCastanon_1B » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:58 pm

Sarah_Kremer_1A wrote:
Arshia_Sabir_3E wrote:Can someone please help me with #3? I used the integrated rate law for first order and I got t=205 seconds



For #3, it is a first order reaction, so you use the corresponding equation
ln[A] = -kt + ln[A0]
so, ln(.33) = -(.0068)t + ln(.75)
ln(.33/.75) = -.0068t
t = ln(.33/.75)/-.0068
t = 120 sec


Thank you! I had the same question

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby eric_beraut_2B » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:38 pm

Mannat Sukhija 1E wrote:Does anyone know on the dates of the first and last lecture that will be covered on Quiz 2?

Quiz two covers the lectures from Monday 2/6/17 up to the lecture on Friday 2/17/17

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby BrianaBarr2A » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:55 pm

204177206 wrote:Will Quiz 2 be 40 minutes as well, and of similar format as Quiz 1?


Yes this is correct, Dr. Lavelle formats all his quizzes this way.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Andrea Medina 1A » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:23 pm

Can someone explain the graphing part of question 4 on the practice quiz?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby danny_nguyen_3C » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:34 pm

If the answer to #2 if false, what other possible units can be used to signify rate constant?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Ariana de Souza 4C » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:46 pm

Andrea Medina 1A wrote:Can someone explain the graphing part of question 4 on the practice quiz?


It tells you that you have a graph where you're plotting the natural log of NOBr against time, and you get a straight line. on page 63 in the course reader, you can see that that's basically how you know that the reaction is first order. You can also check this with the equation
ln (A) = -kt + ln(A)
from here you can see the formula of a line, where -k is the slope and ln(A) is the y intercept. Therefore, ln(A) must be what you plot against t.

The other part asks that if you have a slope of -2, what k must be. Since the slope of the graph would be -k, and -k = -2 /s you can see that k=2/s

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Ariana de Souza 4C » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:48 pm

danny_nguyen_3C wrote:If the answer to #2 if false, what other possible units can be used to signify rate constant?

It depends on what order the reaction is. you can just check this with the rate equations.

ZERO ORDER:
Rate=k
the units of the rate are M/s
so k must be M/s too for zero order reactions

FIRST ORDER:
Rate = k[A]
M/s = ? (M)
so k must be /s

SECOND ORDER:
Rate = k[A]^2
M/S = ? * (M^2)
so k must be 1/s*M

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby ChristineCastanon_1B » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:51 pm

Could anybody briefly explain how you did number 11?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Ann Zhang_1M » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:00 pm

how many questions are included in quiz2?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Madeline Fox 2B » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:01 pm

Can someone explain why question 10 is false? I thought half-lives are always the same.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:02 pm

Ann Zhang_1M wrote:how many questions are included in quiz2?

See above answer.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:04 pm

204177206 wrote:Will Quiz 2 be 40 minutes as well, and of similar format as Quiz 1?

All quizzes are 40 minutes. See Syllabus.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:06 pm

Madeline Fox 2B wrote:Will we have to derive equations for quiz 2?

Derivations are not asked on quizzes.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:09 pm

Jaret Nishikawa wrote:Will it ask us to use specifically to use pre-equilibrium approach for reaction mechanisms or can we use either pre-equilibrium or steady state? Thanks


You can use either approach to solve a reaction mechanism problem.
However, as I discussed in class you are only expected to know the pre-equilibrium approach.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:12 pm

104781135 wrote:Hi everyone and sorry, this might be a dumb question, but will we need to know page 65 in the course reader? I don't want to be surprised if radioactivity shows up. Thank you so much!


Page 65 will not be asked. Since you are Life Science majors I include it for students to see the biological relevance.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:16 pm

Jerry_Dar_3C wrote:Will we be quizzed on any reactions past second order? Or do we only need to know up to second?


That would be super mean and 'bad' chemistry if I were to ask students topics we have not covered.
In class we covered: zero, first, and second order reactions

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Flamingos 3L » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:34 pm

Up to what chapter in the textbook are advised to study up to for this quiz? I see that the Arrhenius equation shows up during 15.11 so are we advised to just study the chapters before that?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:07 pm

Flamingos 3L wrote:Up to what chapter in the textbook are advised to study up to for this quiz? I see that the Arrhenius equation shows up during 15.11 so are we advised to just study the chapters before that?


All of kinetics except the Arrhenius equation and catalysis.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Ashley Van Belle 2B » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:14 pm

What problems out of the textbook given in the course reader would be sufficient in covering kinetics? Because some of the problems begin to cover activation energies, which we are not being tested on in this quiz. Would it be up until 5.55?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Jonathan Orozco 1A » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:44 pm

Can anyone help me with number 6 from Quiz two preparation? I don't understand how the answer is 0.30 M
I used the second order integrated Rate law, and my answer for K was 0.11092 i was wondering if i am going in the right direction and if so can you help me finish peals and thank you very much.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:45 pm

Monday night of the holiday weekend and I don't have the textbook on me.
Just omit any questions related to the Arrhenius equation and catalysis.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Imani Johnson 1H » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:48 pm

Do we have to know how to use the pre-equilibrium approach since that is where we left off or no?

Thanks.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Shelby Slaughter 3D » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:30 pm

Will we need to know the details of radioactive decay?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Henry_Shin_3B » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:02 pm

Shelby Slaughter 3D wrote:Will we need to know the details of radioactive decay?


No, I do not believe so. I think the radioactive decay thing was just an example to show what real-life scenarios the concept can be applied.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:10 pm

Imani Johnson 1H wrote:Do we have to know how to use the pre-equilibrium approach since that is where we left off or no?

Thanks.


Yes you do. See previous Q&A on this.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Natalie Hunt 1E » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:47 pm

Jonathan Orozco 1A wrote:Can anyone help me with number 6 from Quiz two preparation? I don't understand how the answer is 0.30 M
I used the second order integrated Rate law, and my answer for K was 0.11092 i was wondering if i am going in the right direction and if so can you help me finish peals and thank you very much.


Yes, you are going in the right direction! To finish the problem, you use the second order integrated rate law again with [Ao] = 0.95 M, k=0.11092 (which is what you just found), and t = 21 minutes. You then solve for [At] to get 0.30 M.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Natalie Hunt 1E » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:49 pm

Henry_Shin_3B wrote:
Shelby Slaughter 3D wrote:Will we need to know the details of radioactive decay?


No, I do not believe so. I think the radioactive decay thing was just an example to show what real-life scenarios the concept can be applied.


No, we do not need to know that information. As Dr. Lavelle said in an earlier post, "Page 65 will not be asked. Since you are Life Science majors I include it for students to see the biological relevance."

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:55 pm

Thank you Natalie. Introduce yourself at the end of class.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby ben maryamian » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:04 pm

which homework problems will the quiz cover?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Simone Seliger 1C » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:50 pm

Madeline Fox 2B wrote:Can someone explain why question 10 is false? I thought half-lives are always the same.


I am also confused by this question. I know that the equation is second-order, but do not understand why the decomposition would take different amounts of time.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby rebecca_handler_1B » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:20 am

Madeline Fox 2B wrote:Can someone explain why question 10 is false? I thought half-lives are always the same.


You know this one is a second order reaction because rate=[A]^2, and if you set up two equations using the 2nd order integrated rate law (one for 1.0 M and 0.5 M and the other for 0.5 M and 0.25 M), you can solve for t knowing k is constant. Once you solve, you can see that t will change values.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Terry1A » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:00 am

Simone Seliger 1C wrote:
Madeline Fox 2B wrote:Can someone explain why question 10 is false? I thought half-lives are always the same.


I am also confused by this question. I know that the equation is second-order, but do not understand why the decomposition would take different amounts of time.


For number 10 you use the integrated rate law for the second order reaction which is 1/[R]=kt+1/[R]0. You can then manipulate the equation to solve for time, so t=(1/[R]-1/[R]0)/k. The k constant will be the same whether the concentration is decreasing from 1 M to 0.5 M or 0.5 M to 0.25 M. If you plug in the concentrations, you'll get t=1/k for 1 M --> 0.5 M, and t=2/k for 0.5 M --> 0.25 M. This means that the time it takes for the concentrations to decrease are both different, therefore the statement is false.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby danny_nguyen_3C » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:01 am

nlc_lec1 wrote:
Chem_Mod wrote:
nlc_lec1 wrote:Do we need to know how to do #9 and #11 from Quiz 2 Prep?


9 yes
11 no


could you please explain #9? It has to do with enzymes and I don't really know anything about them.



It is not possible to explain everything about enzymes, but I will try to explain why the answer is D. First of all, enzymes are catalysts, meaning they increase the reaction rates of chemical reactions. A and B speak about the concentration of substrate. What is important to know is that the rate of reaction of the enzyme-catalyzed reaction depends on the amount of substrate (reactants) you are given. This means that as you are given more substrate, enzymes become "active" in order to breakdown more of the substrate. On the other hand, if you are given less substrate, the enzymes aren't required to catalyze as many reactions than if there were large amount of substrates. I cannot explain C just because you need to know that all enzymes are proteins, but not necessarily the other way around (just like how a square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not a square). Therefore, the answer is D.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Aditya Mamtora 2C » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:02 am

ChristineCastanon_1B wrote:Could anybody briefly explain how you did number 11?


We do not need to know how do do #11 for Quiz #2

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Angela To 2B » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:24 am

Madeline Fox 2B wrote:Can someone explain why question 10 is false? I thought half-lives are always the same.

I think half-lives are the same for only 1st order reactions

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Veronica_Giap_1C » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:01 am

Angela To 2B wrote:
Madeline Fox 2B wrote:Can someone explain why question 10 is false? I thought half-lives are always the same.

I think half-lives are the same for only 1st order reactions

To expand on this, if you look at the half reactions formulas, you will see how both the 0th order rxn and the 2nd order rxn are dependent on the initial reactant concentration. So when the quiz problem gives you two ranges of concentrations [1.0,0.50] and [0.50,0.25], it is in a way giving you a "new" initial concentration for the 2nd equation and because the initial concentrations are different, your half life values will be too: t1/2=1/k[R]0

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Katelyn_Nakamura_1B » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:06 am

Jonathan Orozco 1A wrote:Can anyone help me with number 6 from Quiz two preparation? I don't understand how the answer is 0.30 M
I used the second order integrated Rate law, and my answer for K was 0.11092 i was wondering if i am going in the right direction and if so can you help me finish peals and thank you very much.



So this problem you need to split into two parts. You use the same equation but with diff #s

First part of the question you need to find k. With what you're given you know that it is a 2nd order and you have time involved (that is not in regards to half life) so you know to use the integrated rate law. You plug in all the numbers known to get k which you found was correct.

With k known you can use the same equation and plug in the new numbers given ([A]initial is known because that does not change). The final answer is rounded to .30M using the sig fig rules.

I hope this helped :)

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Jennifer_Lam_1A » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:36 am

Can someone please explain #5 on the practice quiz? I thought the answer would be A because you have to take into account temperature when finding the activation energy.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby 704709603 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:18 am

For the pre-equilibrium approach: What if there are more than two steps in the mechanism? Also, how did you go from rate = k1 [CHBr3] ((k2[Br2])/k' 2) to rate = k [CHBr3][Br2]?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Jordan Pace 2B » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:21 am

For #11:
I'm not 100% sure this is how to approach this problem, but this is what a friend and I did to solve it!

ln k2/k1= Ea/8.314 [1/T1 - 1/T2]

k2=35 min^-1
k1=25 min^-1
T1=298
T2=350

Solve for Ea

0.336= 0.000498Ea/8.314

Ea=5617.3

Now find rate constant at 770K

ln x/25= 5617.3/8.314 [1/298 - 1/770]

ln x/25 = 1.3898

x=25e^1.38, so x=99.37 min^-1 or 100 min^-1

Hope this helps! If this isn't the correct way to solve this problem, please feel free to correct it!

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby ariana_cruz_1C » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:11 pm

Hi, can someone show me how they did #7, I know you use the first order integrated rate law, but when I work it out I am not getting the answer that is posted.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Chem_Mod » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:17 pm

Veronica_Giap_1C wrote:
Angela To 2B wrote:
Madeline Fox 2B wrote:Can someone explain why question 10 is false? I thought half-lives are always the same.

I think half-lives are the same for only 1st order reactions

To expand on this, if you look at the half reactions formulas, you will see how both the 0th order rxn and the 2nd order rxn are dependent on the initial reactant concentration. So when the quiz problem gives you two ranges of concentrations [1.0,0.50] and [0.50,0.25], it is in a way giving you a "new" initial concentration for the 2nd equation and because the initial concentrations are different, your half life values will be too: t1/2=1/k[R]0


Correct. Half-life formulas with [A]o depend on the initial concentration (as discussed in class). See pages 64, 66, and 67 in the lecture notes.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby ariana_cruz_1C » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:07 pm

ariana_cruz_1C wrote:Hi, can someone show me how they did #7, I know you use the first order integrated rate law, but when I work it out I am not getting the answer that is posted.



nevermind!

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Diana Catapusan 1N » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:18 pm

ariana_cruz_1C wrote:Hi, can someone show me how they did #7, I know you use the first order integrated rate law, but when I work it out I am not getting the answer that is posted.


First, you need to rearrange the first order integrated rate law and isolate k. (k=ln(A/A0)/t) After, plug in each value. k=ln(0.622M/0.773M)/22.0 min, which should give you 9.88x10-3min-1. Hope this helps, I'm sorry I couldn't figure out how to upload a picture!

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Tiffany Wee 2D » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:00 pm

This might be dumb question, but could someone quickly explain the difference between the reaction rate and the rate constant?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby AnnaTong1E » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:27 pm

Is there any place that all of the course reader quiz 2 answers (written out, long, and explanatory) are compiled in one place? I know there are the answers on this site.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Melanie_Wong_1K » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:50 pm

Diwana Lucero 3K wrote:
Brian Huynh 3G wrote:How is question one done from quiz 2?

When you balance the reaction, you get 2 mol N2O5, so you multiply the rate of decomposition of N2O5, 2.89, by 2 to get the rate of formation of NO2. So, this would be 2(2.89)= 5.78 (mol NO2)⋅L–1⋅s–1


Does this mean the coefficient in front of the reactants doesn't matter for this question?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Mizuno_Mikaela_1D » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:53 pm

Simone Seliger 1C wrote:
Madeline Fox 2B wrote:Can someone explain why question 10 is false? I thought half-lives are always the same.


I am also confused by this question. I know that the equation is second-order, but do not understand why the decomposition would take different amounts of time.


Since it is second order, the equation for t1/2 is t1/2 = 1/([A]0 *k) which means it depends on [A]0 . Since in #10, the half lives you are comparing have different initial concentrations, the half life is different. Initial concentration also affects goes a zero order reaction but not a first order.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby SarahTian3k » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:44 pm

Could someone please explain number 7? I keep getting 7.46x10-3 min-1

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Hirmand_Sarafian_2N » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:27 pm

Can somebody explain to me why 10 on the quiz 2 prep is false?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby 604735966 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:33 pm

Can someone please explain number 7! I know it's a straight forward problem, but I must be missing a step because I can't seem to get the correct answer.

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby 604735966 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:38 pm

As for number 7, when do we know to use the rearranged integrated rate law and when to use the differential rate law?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby Amy_Hoang_1E » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:41 pm

604735966 wrote:Can someone please explain number 7! I know it's a straight forward problem, but I must be missing a step because I can't seem to get the correct answer.


So for number 7, you can use the 1st order integrated rate law, which is ln[A] = -kt + ln [A]initial and then isolate k, since you're solving for k
ln [A] is 0.622M
ln [A] initial is 0.773 M
t is 22 mins
and you're solving for k

all plugged in, it should be ln 0.622= -k (22) + ln 0.773
so, - (ln 0.622 - ln 0.773)/ 22 = k
then it should be straight algebra after that. The answer I got is 0.009877, which is the same as 9.88 x 10^-3

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby christy_zambrano_2E » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:20 pm

ChristineCastanon_1B wrote:
Sarah_Kremer_1A wrote:
Arshia_Sabir_3E wrote:Can someone please help me with #3? I used the integrated rate law for first order and I got t=205 seconds



For #3, it is a first order reaction, so you use the corresponding equation
ln[A] = -kt + ln[A0]
so, ln(.33) = -(.0068)t + ln(.75)
ln(.33/.75) = -.0068t
t = ln(.33/.75)/-.0068
t = 120 sec


Thank you! I had the same question


the answer I got was 120.73... are we not suppose to round to three sig figs? So wouldn't it be 121 sec?

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Re: Quiz 2 Winter 2017

Postby chris2E » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:27 pm

Is there a reason why number six's answer has three significant figures despite the given concentration 0.35M having two significant figures? Do we not bother with sig figs when ln is involved?


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