Dog bone shapes from 2/6 lecture?  [ENDORSED]

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Dog bone shapes from 2/6 lecture?

Postby Olivia Dalton 2I » Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:18 pm

Hi all,

I was a bit confused in lecture today about what the structure Lavalle was drawing represented. He described them as 'dog bones' and I'm sure he mentioned what they represented, but I think I was either too busy writing down notes or I missed what he said. Does anyone know anything about this and can explains? Thanks!

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Re: Dog bone shapes from 2/6 lecture?

Postby isabella1012 » Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:41 am

he said they represented like 2 containers with a thin tube in the middle. the thin tube is so we can only have the atoms on one side or the other

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Re: Dog bone shapes from 2/6 lecture?

Postby Ishika Gupta 3E » Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:54 pm

The dog bone shapes just represent a vessel with two containers connected by a thin tube. It's a way to visualize how the molecules are in different positions.

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Re: Dog bone shapes from 2/6 lecture?  [ENDORSED]

Postby Annabelle_Wilson_1E » Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:58 pm

The the dog bones in lecture were just demonstrating the position/arrangement of atoms in a system. This is used to calculate W (degeneracy). The positions of where the molecules are don't have an effect on the energy of the system, but it does have an effect on the W value you will get based off how many of these different arrangements/micro-states/distributions (all the same thing) you can achieve with the atoms.

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Re: Dog bone shapes from 2/6 lecture?

Postby 305568482 » Tue Feb 07, 2023 3:59 pm

That confused me as well during lecture but realized that they actually represent thin tubes and which are meant to show molecule positioning. Redrawing them as actual tubes in your notes next to the bones will help you remember the actual meaning easier.

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Re: Dog bone shapes from 2/6 lecture?

Postby Karissa_Lee_1A » Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:03 pm

The picture was mainly to just explain the different arrangements of molecules depending on the different states and the number of particles.

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Re: Dog bone shapes from 2/6 lecture?

Postby Casey Fineberg » Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:16 pm

They were interpretations of a lab experiment of two containers with a thin tube connecting them. This was to show the different arrangements/positions of molecules in a system.

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Re: Dog bone shapes from 2/6 lecture?

Postby Peter_Wisner_3F » Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:23 pm

They represent two containers with a thin path joining them. They're used to demonstrate each molecule being in one of two possible locations.

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Re: Dog bone shapes from 2/6 lecture?

Postby 506026459 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:00 pm

The dog bones represent two glass bulbs connected by a very thin tube. They were us poised to show the different positions two gases could be in and explain degeneracy.

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Re: Dog bone shapes from 2/6 lecture?

Postby 005999765 » Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:16 pm

The "dog bones" are 2 containers with a thin tube connecting them. It's a way of explaining the different arrangements of molecules based upon their different states and the amount of particles.


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