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Amanda Hagen 1L
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Rydberg Equation

Postby Amanda Hagen 1L » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:34 pm

In the Rydberg Equation (v=R(1/n1^2-1/n2^2)) is N1 always the lower energy level or is it the initial energy level (the energy level the electron started on before absorbing or emitting an electron)?

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Re: Rydberg Equation

Postby Miguel Velasco 2J » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:43 pm

Always depends on where it started and ended up. Remember, E(final) - E(initial)
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Re: Rydberg Equation

Postby Hyein Cha 2I » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:44 pm

N1 is always the "final energy" lvl, so after the electron emits energy.

For example, if in the question, electron goes from n=4 to n=2, then N1=2 and N2=4.

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Re: Rydberg Equation

Postby 204918982 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:05 pm

n1 is always the ending energy level: E(final)-E(initial)

Nehal Banik
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Re: Rydberg Equation

Postby Nehal Banik » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:10 pm

N1 is supposed to be the initial energy level it starts at, for instance if we say if it is the Lyman Series, then N1 starts at energy level 1 so then it absorbs energy and it excited to a higher energy level. You can use that equation to find the frequency required to make each jump, however Lavelle recommends that we don't use that equation because he wants use to understand conceptually why there is negative energy when an electron returns to its ground state. The equation you put there is to calculate the frequency from one energy level to the next and therefore we can convert the frequency to the energy difference between both energy levels.

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Re: Rydberg Equation

Postby miznaakbar » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:07 pm

My TA said it was all right to use the smaller n-value given for the n1 value, that way you will always get a positive number for your value of frequency (if you do not include the negative sign in front of R ). I usually just write a note on the side indicating which is n-initial and n-final.

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Re: Rydberg Equation

Postby Ethan Vuong 3G » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:38 pm

In the equations sheet the rydberg equation is -hR/n^2 but i know that people have been using a different formula. I was wondering how they had this new "derived" formula that contains frequency. Thanks!

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Re: Rydberg Equation

Postby Matt_Fontila_2L_Chem14B » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:39 pm

I've tried using both. The formula with frequency worked more like a one step problem for me. I personally like using the shorter -hR/n^2 equation twice and taking the difference between the initial and final energies, because it feels like a step by step process. In the end, it's up to your preference.


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