Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?


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Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby 205743684 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:24 pm

Hi! I just watched Dr. Lavelle's Friday Lecture on Debroglie's equation and did not understand why we use kgs for the mass in the equation...Isn't grams the SI unit?

Could someone tell me if I am confusing something here!
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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Jessica Phung 1E » Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:31 pm

HI! I think we use kg because in this equation, the constants are in terms of kgm/s.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Brandon Yu » Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:35 pm

We use kg as opposed to g because kg is the standard unit for mass and you want to convert to SI units before doing calculations!

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Tess_Fleser_1D » Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:40 pm

Yup!

Mass is kind of like the exception to the rule of SI base units. Kg is technically the base unit, though there are some equations that use grams.

The easiest way to know you need to use kg in this situation is because it involves J, and J is kgm^2s^-2, so we need kg not g.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Chem_Mod » Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:47 pm

Hello,

We use the kilogram in the equations because (1) it is an SI Unit and (2) is allows the corresponding units to cancel.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Preethika Praveen 2G » Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:49 pm

Hi! In order to use the De Broglie equation (wavelength=h/p) you need to convert to kilograms in order to cancel out the Joules in Planck's constant (which is measured in kg m^2 s^-2 ).

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Jonathan Shyu 3L » Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:45 pm

We use Kgs to allow for calculations across formulas not only in chem but physics and any other subjects that apply to be applicable. Kgs are a part of the SI units, which are the standard units that everyone utilizes during calculations to allow for consistent and accurate outcomes.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby masontsang » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:13 pm

Hi!

Kilograms (kg) are the SI unit for mass, so you should convert grams to kilograms before doing the calculations. Tess brought up a really good point too! Since one Joule = kgm^2/s^2, and Joules were the unit given in the problem, it would make the most sense to use kg in your calculations!

I hope this helps!

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Matthew Li 1B » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:17 pm

we use kg in debrogiles equation because we use kg to calculate momentum

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Megan Cai 1H » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:20 pm

Hi! We use kilograms so that the units can cancel with Joules (which has kilograms as a part of its units).

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Kirsten Yu 2K » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:40 pm

The reason we use kg instead of g is because kg is the SI unit for mass.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Eric Sun 2G » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:21 pm

1 J = 1 kg*m^2/s^2. For this reason, we would try to convert our mass values to kg in order to cancel out the units.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Meia Schram 1J » Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:00 pm

Hi,

We use kg for mass because it will cancel out nicely with Jules which has kg as well. Hope this helps!

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Peter Fernandez 2K » Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:20 pm

Kg is used instead of g because it is the standard SI unit for mass!

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Phillip Ma 1J » Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:21 pm

Hi 205743684! The units for Planck's Constant is kg*m^2/s. Because kg are the units in the equation, you must have mass in kg.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Skylar Lo 2C » Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:19 am

We use kg in chemistry because it is the SI unit of mass.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Jennifer Fuentes 2K » Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:43 pm

Joules is measured in kg m^2 s^-2. Therefore, in order for the De Broglie Equation to work you have to use a mass with kilograms in order to cancel out with the kg in Joules in Planck's Constant.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Ruben Adamov 1E » Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:51 pm

Because 1 J = 1 kg*m^2/s^2, we convert our units to kg so we can cancel them out in the equation.
Hope this helps!

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Janys Li - 1L » Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:00 pm

Hi!
Kg is the SI unit for most calculations. When calculating molecular weights, you often use grams, but you would only do it if that is specified.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Shriya_Amara_1G » Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:22 pm

De Broglie's equation is
h stands for Planck's constant, which is in terms of Joules per Hertz
Joules per Hertz is technically in terms of (kg⋅m2⋅s−1)
So for the kg in Planck's constant to cancel out the mass in the momentum equation (), the mass has to be in kg.

Also, kg is technically the SI Unit, but grams is used in some equations too.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Neelaj Das 3I » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:36 pm

If you notice, in De Broglie's wave equation Planck's constant (h) is in the denominator. The units for this constant are Joules times seconds, and joules involves kilograms so that's why the mass also has to be kilograms.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Sidharth Paparaju 3B » Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:38 pm

We use kgs because the units for planck's constants include J, which is defined as kgm^2/s^2, so to cancel out the kg, we need mass in kg.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Aryan Gajjar 3D » Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:33 pm

We use kg because it is the Si unit.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby August Blum Dis 3D » Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:51 pm

We use kg because it is the SI unit necessary to cancel out the kg in Joules.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Harsimer Bal 3K » Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:03 pm

I was also very confused on why we used kg instead of g until I found out that kg is the SI unit for mass!

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Michelle Li 2B » Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:34 pm

Hi! We use kg because Joules are kgm^2/s^2, which are in Planck's constant which is in the numerator. Therefore, the mass is in the denominator so you want to use kg to cancel out the kg in the numerator.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Victoria Sigala 2A » Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:40 pm

In De Broglie's equation we use kg for mass in order to be able to cancel the Jules from Planks constant as it is (kg)(m^2/s^2).

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Celine Khuu 2F » Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:59 pm

We use kilograms for mass because the SI units of a joule is kg*m^2*s^-2.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Tanvi Akula 2K » Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:03 pm

The units for energy are joules, and joules are equal to kgm^2/s^2. So since DeBroglie's equation is derived from energy and because Planck's constant also uses joules, we use kgs in Debroglie's equation.

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Emily Wu 2G » Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:06 pm

We use Kg because of moles but you can always convert g to kg !

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Santiago Chang 2K » Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:32 pm

We use kg for the mass in De Broglie's equation because the equation helps to determine energy in Joules, which is kgm^2/s^2. The units need to match on both sides. Also, kg is the SI unit for mass. Hope this helps!

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Re: Why do we use kgs in DeBrogile's equation?

Postby Gabby Burgess 2I » Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:39 pm

Usually kg is used because it is the SI unit for chemistry!


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