Energy levels of orbitals?

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Energy levels of orbitals?

Postby 905085650 » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:40 pm

I'm confused on the order of energy of the orbitals...

does it go s>p>d>f? or does it go s<p<d<f?

also, can someone explain why the order of the energy levels is like that?

thank you!!

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Re: Energy levels of orbitals?

Postby ThomasLai1D » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:45 pm

The energy level goes s<p<d<f. This is because s-orbitals are closer to the nucleus and therefore experience greater pull from the positive nucleus. Thought about in a different way, f-orbitals need to be of higher energy to remain farther outside the nucleus and resist the inward pull of the nucleus.

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Re: Energy levels of orbitals?

Postby 404905747 » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:47 pm

I am pretty sure that the energy levels are s<p<d<f. I think this is because there are less n levels and so there are less electrons and energy at lower orbitals.

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Re: Energy levels of orbitals?

Postby jocelyntzeng » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:59 pm

It is s<p<d<f because the different levels correspond with how far the electrons are from the nucleus.

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Re: Energy levels of orbitals?

Postby David S » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:28 pm

Within the same energy level, the order goes s<p<d< f.

If you want to predict order the orbitals for electron configurations in order of filling (without periodic table), a little trick is to compare the sum of n and l for two different orbitals. The one with a smaller sum goes first. If the sum is the same, then the one with smaller n comes first.

E.g. electron config for Gallium (element 31) is [Ar]4s2-3d10-4p1. Note that n+l = 4+0 for s < n+l = 3+2 for d = n+l = 4+1 for p. Thus, s comes first. 3d and 4p have the same sum, but 3d comes after s because its n is smaller.

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Re: Energy levels of orbitals?

Postby Grace Diaz 3F » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:04 pm

The energy of the orbitals goes according to their distance from the nucleus. So f would have the highest energy level and d,p, and s would follow.

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Re: Energy levels of orbitals?

Postby 405098546 » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:21 pm

S<P<D<F because the farther the distance of the orbital from the nucleus the higher the energy that is required to keep the orbital from resisting the inward pull. As a result, the farthest orbital requires the greatest amount of energy

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Re: Energy levels of orbitals?

Postby 404982241 » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:40 pm

The correct order is s<p<d<f. Keep in mind that an electron traveling from d to s releases more energy than an electron traveling from f to p.

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Re: Energy levels of orbitals?

Postby 404982241 » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:40 pm

The correct order is s<p<d<f. Keep in mind that an electron traveling from d to s releases more energy than an electron traveling from f to p.

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Re: Energy levels of orbitals?

Postby Maxwell S 3E » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:44 pm

F is greatest, S is the least. One way to think about it is swinging a ball around a string. The longer the string is, the harder it is to control, the more wild and easier it is for the ball to fall out of "orbit". As the farther the orbital goes, the more energy is required to keep the electron in the orbit and with the atom. The shorter it gets, the easier it is to hold on to it and requires less energy.

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Re: Energy levels of orbitals?

Postby Jackie Ngo 1C » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:50 pm

The order would go s<p<d<f, and that is because s is known to typically be the ground state, and in order for it jump to another orbital, it needs to be excited. Therefore, more energy is put into the system to stabilize it at that higher orbital --> energy level goes up


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