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What's the difference between subshell vs orbitals?

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:27 pm
by tonyhu
They seem like the same thing?

Re: What's the difference between subshell vs orbitals?

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:29 pm
by Jared Khoo 1G
Hopefully this helps. Also there is a chemistry stackexchange post on this topic with helpful images.

If electrons share the value n, it is part of a shell.
If electrons share n and l, it is part of the same sub-shell.
If electrons share n, l and ml then it is in the same orbital.

https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/que ... d-orbitals

Re: What's the difference between subshell vs orbitals?

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:48 pm
by alexfwang3g
The l value is the subshell. The ml value gives the orbitals.

Re: What's the difference between subshell vs orbitals?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:01 am
by Haley Chun 4H
subshells are the l value and tell you the shape (spdf), while orbitals are the ml value and tell you the orientation (xyz)

Re: What's the difference between subshell vs orbitals?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:28 am
by MMckinney_4H
This picture really helped me out. n (the shell) represents the energy level. l (the subshell) represents the type/ shape of the orbitals. m(sub)l (the orbital) represents the actually orientation of the space that the electron can occupy.

Re: What's the difference between subshell vs orbitals?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:34 am
by Kylie Lim 4G
I think that subshells are s,p,d,f, and the orbitals are the different possible orientations of the subshells.

Re: What's the difference between subshell vs orbitals?

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:39 am
by Pipiena Malafu 3J
Orbitals that have the same value of the principal quantum number n; n form a shell.

“Orbitals within a shell are divided into subshells that have the same value of the angular quantum number l.

Chemists describe the shell and subshell in which an orbital belongs with a two-character code such as 2p or 4f. The first character indicates the shell (n = 2 or n = 4). The second character identifies the subshell.

By convention, the following lowercase letters are used to indicate different subshells.”

s: l = 0
p: l = 1
d: l = 2
f: l = 3

Here’s a source that might help: http://chemed.chem.purdue.edu/genchem/t ... tml#shells

Re: What's the difference between subshell vs orbitals?

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:41 am
by Destiny_Ryales_3J
Wait so orbital are just used to describe when sub shells are spherical? I’m confused.

Re: What's the difference between subshell vs orbitals?

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:06 pm
by kendal mccarthy
Subshells are either s,p,d, or f on the periodic table.
Orbitals are inside subshells.
for example: s has 1 orbital, p has 3 orbitals, d has 5 orbitals, and f has 7 orbitals that each hold 2 electrons.