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Orbitals
How come in lecture Dr. Lavelle says when n is 2, l can be 0,1, or 2. I thought l had to be n-1 so shouldn't l only be 1 if n is 2?
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Re: Orbitals
I believe that he was demonstrating that the upper bound of l is n-1. It can take on any possible values from 0 to n-1, with n-1 being the upper bound value. I don't think that if n=2 l could equal 1, but it could equal 0 or 1.
This is a chart that I used to better understand it. When n=3, l can have any value up to n-1.

This is a chart that I used to better understand it. When n=3, l can have any value up to n-1.

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Hm, I'm not sure that's correct? Maybe Dr. Lavelle misspoke but when n = 2, l should be only equal to 0 or 1 since l's upper bound is l = n-1. However, I may be incorrect.
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Re: Orbitals
Sophia Spungin wrote:I believe that he was demonstrating that the upper bound of l is n-1. It can take on any possible values from 0 to n-1, with n-1 being the upper bound value. I don't think that if n=2 l could equal 1, but it could equal 0 or 1.
This is a chart that I used to better understand it. When n=3, l can have any value up to n-1.
Thank you so much for providing this chart! I saw it in the lecture but was unsure how to find it on my own.
I notice that on the side they provide images of the shapes (?) of the orbitals? Do they correspond to the n-values they are next to? If so, do the n-values sort of determine the dimension (ie 2-Dimensional, 3-Dimensional) of the orbitals?
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Re: Orbitals
LeanneBagood_2E wrote:Sophia Spungin wrote:I believe that he was demonstrating that the upper bound of l is n-1. It can take on any possible values from 0 to n-1, with n-1 being the upper bound value. I don't think that if n=2 l could equal 1, but it could equal 0 or 1.
This is a chart that I used to better understand it. When n=3, l can have any value up to n-1.
Thank you so much for providing this chart! I saw it in the lecture but was unsure how to find it on my own.
I notice that on the side they provide images of the shapes (?) of the orbitals? Do they correspond to the n-values they are next to? If so, do the n-values sort of determine the dimension (ie 2-Dimensional, 3-Dimensional) of the orbitals?
The n-values correspond to the energy level. The l-values (angular momentum) describes the shape of an orbital. For example, if n = 3 then l can be 0 (s), 1 (p), 2 (d), all of which have different shapes. So the shape of the orbital depends on the angular momentum.
Hope this helps!
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Re: Orbitals
it's always n-1, and I'm sure where in lecture he stated that, but it should only be for the 0 and 1 orbitals, and not the second!
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Sofia Lombardo 3F wrote:LeanneBagood_2E wrote:Sophia Spungin wrote:I believe that he was demonstrating that the upper bound of l is n-1. It can take on any possible values from 0 to n-1, with n-1 being the upper bound value. I don't think that if n=2 l could equal 1, but it could equal 0 or 1.
This is a chart that I used to better understand it. When n=3, l can have any value up to n-1.
Thank you so much for providing this chart! I saw it in the lecture but was unsure how to find it on my own.
I notice that on the side they provide images of the shapes (?) of the orbitals? Do they correspond to the n-values they are next to? If so, do the n-values sort of determine the dimension (ie 2-Dimensional, 3-Dimensional) of the orbitals?
The n-values correspond to the energy level. The l-values (angular momentum) describes the shape of an orbital. For example, if n = 3 then l can be 0 (s), 1 (p), 2 (d), all of which have different shapes. So the shape of the orbital depends on the angular momentum.
Hope this helps!
Thank you so much. Extremely helpful
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