How many orbitals are in a subshell

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How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby sgarza » Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:41 pm

Can some please explain to me what it means when orbitals are present in a subshell (in the context of this textbook question: How many orbitals are present in the (a) 4p-subshell; (b) 3d-subshell; (c) 1s-subshell; (d) 4f-subshell of an atom?). Or explain what an orbital is in reference to a subshell, energy level, etc.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Jayden Arevalo 2B » Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:33 pm

The number of orbitals depends on the subshell. For example the s subshell can hold a total of 2 electrons. A single orbital can only hold 2 electrons, therefore the s subshell has 1 orbital. Next, the p subshell has 6 electrons. Which means that the p subshell has 3 orbitals. The number of orbitals depends on the max number of electrons within a subshell. Here is an easy formula for it, though it isn't necessary, (max number of electrons a subshell can hold/2) = # of orbitals in that subshell.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Grace_Wu » Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:38 pm

s orbital has 2 electrons, it is a symmetrical single orbital that contains 2 electrons. The other subshells are not symmetrical and contains more electrons. p has 6 electrons, 3 orbitals, d has 10 electrons, 5 orbitals, and f has 14 electrons, 7 orbitals. But you have to look in detail for the content for each question because it could be some changed that increase or decrease the orbitals and electrons.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby sgarza » Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:44 pm

Jayden Arevalo 2K wrote:The number of orbitals depends on the subshell. For example the s subshell can hold a total of 2 electrons. A single orbital can only hold 2 electrons, therefore the s subshell has 1 orbital. Next, the p subshell has 6 electrons. Which means that the p subshell has 3 orbitals. The number of orbitals depends on the max number of electrons within a subshell. Here is an easy formula for it, though it isn't necessary, (max number of electrons a subshell can hold/2) = # of orbitals in that subshell.


awesome thanks!

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby LukeYing_3H » Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:42 pm

The s subshell has 1, the p subshell has 3, the d subshell has 5, and the f subshell has 7

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Sevde Coban 2J » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:11 pm

The orbitals also have ml values that depend on the number of orbitals in a subshell. The s-subshell has 1 orbital that has an ml value of 0. The p-subshell has 3 orbitals ranging from -1 to 1, so the three orbitals have ml values of -1, 0, 1. The d-subshell’s 5 orbitals range from -2 to 2, and so on.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Jane Wang 1E » Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:38 am

Hi!
Orbitals are described by magnetic quantum number, which has values from +l to -l, and the total number of orbitals equals to 2l+1. For example, in 4p subshell, l=1 because it is a p subshell, so number of orbitals=m(l)=2*1+1=3. These 3 are actually Px, Py and Pz orbitals.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Michelle Argueta 1E » Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:58 pm

s-subshell - 1 orbital
p-subshell - 3 orbitals
d-subshell - 5 orbitals
f-subshell - 7 orbitals

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Michelle_Duong_3H » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:58 pm

Hello,

For every principle quantum number n, the available subshells l = n-1. Within each of these subshells are specific amounts of orbitals. So while the principle quantum number--which gives us the energy level--affects which subshells can exist in the atom, the number of orbitals in each subshell does not change regardless of n. Thus when looking at this question, we only care about the subshell--s, p, d, or f.

For s, there is one orbital. For p, there are three orbitals. For d, there are five orbitals. For f, there are seven orbitals.

Hope this helps!

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby austinchun » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:25 pm

Hello! When looking at this question, you want to look at what subshell they give you. If it is in the s subshell, it can hold 2 electrons, making it so that there is one orbital total. A way I memorized how many orbitals there are is to just add 2 orbitals when you go up a subshell. So when you go into the p subshell, you would add 2 orbitals resulting in 3 total orbitals and so on.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Elsie_Lin_2K » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:27 pm

The number of orbitals that are present in a subshell is determined by the location of the electrons along with the number of electrons. For example, in the subshell, there are three possible orbitals: Px, Py, and Pz. The number of orbitals changes depending on which subshell because in the d subshell there are 5 orbitals and in the f subshell there are 7.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Nayeli Valtierra 2F » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:59 pm

Hi,
I would try to memorize that the s subshell has 1 orbital, p subshell has 3, d subshell has 5, and the f subshell has 7.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Mahima Manoj 1F » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:37 pm

Subshells usually have the associated orbitals: s-1, p-3 , d-5 , f-7.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Madison Yee 2B » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:51 pm

Think of subshells as like the subcategories of the shells (the energy levels.) For example, in the n = 3 energy level, there is an s subshell, a p subshell, and a d subshell. Within these subshells are different numbers of orbitals based on the ways that their shapes allow them to be oriented around the x, y, and z axes. In the s subshell, there is only one orbital because there is only one way a sphere can be oriented around the axes. For the p subshell, there are three types of orbitals because the shape allows it to be oriented on the x-axis, the y-axis, or the z-axis. Hope this helps!

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Gabby Sigal 3H » Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:16 pm

The number of orbitals in a sub shell increase by 2 per sub shell, always being an odd number. For example, the number of orbitals in the s-subshell is 1, the number of orbitals in the p-subshell is 3, the number of orbitals in the d-subshell is 5, etc. It is important to remember that the number of orbitals in a sub shell and the number of electrons that can fit in an orbital are different considering that 2 electrons can fit per orbital.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Clarence Clavite 2K » Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:18 pm

There are different number of orbitals in different subshells. The s subshell has 1, the p has 3, the d has 5, and the f has 7. Hope this helps!

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Hope Galarneau 1A » Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:32 pm

Each orbital can hold 2 electrons, so when looking at the subshells you would look at how many electrons each can hold and divide that by two to find the number of orbitals. Thus, since the s, p, d, and f subshells hold 2, 6, 10, and 14 electrons respectively, the s-subshell has 1 orbital, the p-subshell has 3 orbitals, the d-subshell has 5 orbitals, and the f-subshell has 7 orbitals. You can also think about how electrons within an orbital are paired, so if there are 6 electrons, only 3 orbitals will be present.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Niyati 1F » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:53 am

s - 1 orbital
p - 3 orbitals
d - 5 orbitals
f - 7 orbitals

each orbital can contain 2 electrons

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Sean Sanders 1E » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:57 am

The # of orbitals present in a subshell depends on which subshell you are referring to. S-subshell has 1, p-subshell- has 3, d-subshell has 5, and f-subshell has 7. I find it easiest to remember that each subshell holds an odd number of orbitals that increases as you got up energy levels.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Shannon Lau 14B - 1H » Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:07 pm

When solving problems like this one, I try to remember that:
s can have up to 2 electrons
p can have up to 6 electrons
d can have up to 10 electrons
f can have up to 14 electrons
Keeping in mind that, when l=0=s, when l=1=p, when l=2=d and when l=3=f.
I also use this pyramid to help me answer questions:
1s
2s 2p
3s 3p 3d
4s 4p 4d 4f
5s 5p 5d 5f
6s 6p 6d
7s 7p
It also helps to remember that when l=0=s then ml can only have one option, when l=1=p then ml can have 3 options - (-1,0,+1), when l=2=d then ml can have 5 options - (-2,-1,0,+1,+2) and so on and so forth.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby masontsang » Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:36 pm

Hi!

The number of orbitals is different for each subshell. Each orbital can hold a maximum of 2 electrons, so each subshell has the number of orbitals equal to the maximum number of electrons it can hold divided by two. The s-subshell has 1 orbital (2 electrons), the p-subshell has 3 orbitals (6 electrons), the d-subshell has 5 orbitals (10 electrons), and the f-subshell has 7 orbitals (14 electrons).

I hope this helps!

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Celine Khuu 2F » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:31 pm

The number of orbitals in a subshell (ml) depend on the value of l. For instance, the p subshell has an l value of 1. To figure out the number of orbitals from this number, recall that ml = -l, ... l. Since l = 1 in this case, the ml would be -1, 0, 1. Therefore, the p subshell has 3 orbitals.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby madeleinewright » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:34 pm

The number of orbitals depends on the subshell the orbitals are in. The s subshell has 1 orbital, the p subshell has 3 orbitals, the d subshell has 5 orbitals, and the f subshell has 7 orbitals.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Jieun 2C » Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:06 am

In terms of the textbook question, there are a) 3 orbitals, b) 5 orbitals, c) 1 orbital, d) 7 orbitals. You can find the number of orbitals by using ml. Ml is the magnetic quantum number and it specifies which orbital the electron is in and the orientation. Usually, the range of ml is -l,..0,..,l and l refers to the angular momentum quantum number. So for 2p, n=2, l=1, so ml= -1,0,1. Therefore, there are 3 orbitals in 2p.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Claire Kim 1F » Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:47 am

sgarza wrote:Can some please explain to me what it means when orbitals are present in a subshell (in the context of this textbook question: How many orbitals are present in the (a) 4p-subshell; (b) 3d-subshell; (c) 1s-subshell; (d) 4f-subshell of an atom?). Or explain what an orbital is in reference to a subshell, energy level, etc.


I believe that the number of orbitals present within a subshell depends:
s: 1 orbital
p: 3 orbitals
d: 5 orbitals
f: 7 orbitals

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Julia Zahra » Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:10 pm

each orbital can hold two electrons so for the s subshell since it can only hold 2 electrons it has one orbital, for p since it can have 6 electrons that's 3 orbitals.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Akshat Katoch 2K » Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:50 pm

The s subshell holds 2 electrons and has 1 orbital. The p subshell holds 6 electrons and has 3 orbitals. The d subshell holds 10 electrons and has 5 orbitals. The f subshell holds 14 electrons and has 7 orbitals. Note that an orbital can have a max of 2 electrons.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Myra Goraya Dis 2E » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:20 pm

The number of orbitals depend on which subshell it is. s sub shell has one orbital, p has 3, d has 5, and f has 7

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Esther Kim » Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:14 pm

s=1 orbital, d=10 orbitals, p=6 orbitals, f=7

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Nandini_Parmar_1I » Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:10 pm

There is one orbital in s, three in p, five in d, and seven in f.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Nathalia Garibay 1D » Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:21 pm

The number of orbitals depends on the subshell :

s: 1 orbital
p: 3 orbitals
d: 5 orbitals
f: 7 orbitals

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Ameen Shaheen 2I » Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:24 pm

s shell: 1
p shell: 3
d shell: 5
f shell: 7

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Alekhya_Pantula_2E » Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:32 pm

So essentially each subshell s,p,d, or f can hold a specific number of electrons and those electrons are distributed between a series of orbitals within the subshell. So for part a, in a 4p subshell there are 3 orbitals present as the p subshell can hold up to 6 electrons. Remembering that the s subshell as 1 orbital and can hold 2 electrons, the p subshell has 3 orbitals and can hold 6 electrons, the d subshell has 5 orbitals and can hold up to 10 electrons and the f subshell has 7 orbitals can hold up to 14 electrons.

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Re: How many orbitals are in a subshell

Postby Brianna Mercado 3D » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:09 pm

Hi! s: 1 orbital
p: 3 orbitals
d: 5 orbitals
f: 7 orbitals


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