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Homework question on 25

Postby Anisa Morales 1L » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:34 pm

Hello,

I think I understand the question however I was wondering what the [Ne] referred to. Like why is it there>

Question: " Give the chemical symbol for the element with the ground‑state electron configuration [Ne]3s^2 3p^2 ."

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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby Elaine Steinberg 3H » Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:04 pm

Instead of writing out the whole entire electron configuration for Si () or any other element, you can use an abbreviated notation. The part of the electron configuration that represents completely filled shells is replaced with the noble gas it corresponds to in brackets (in this case is the configuration for Ne). Then, the outer electrons that don't compromise a full subshell are written after the brackets (the ones leftover -- in this case ). Together, this makes [Ne].

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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby Anisa Morales 1L » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:00 am

Elaine Steinberg 1H wrote:Instead of writing out the whole entire electron configuration for Si () or any other element, you can use an abbreviated notation. The part of the electron configuration that represents completely filled shells is replaced with the noble gas it corresponds to in brackets (in this case is the configuration for Ne). Then, the outer electrons that don't compromise a full subshell are written after the brackets (the ones leftover -- in this case ). Together, this makes [Ne].



are we required to do this for the test/ in general?

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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby Hannah Joo 2D » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:04 am

In general, it isn't required scientifically for you to use the "shortcut" but it is the norm because it is tedious to always have to write out everything especially when dealing with elements that have higher atomic numbers.

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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby masontsang » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:16 pm

Hi!

The [Ne] represents the electron configuration of Neon and is used as a shortcut or abbreviation for another element's electron configuration. You can only use the abbreviation for the closest noble gas (group 18 elements) to your element because noble gases have completely filled shells. After using the abbreviated version, you still need to write out the orbitals of the uncompleted subshell(s)!

I hope this helps!

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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby Madelyn_Rios_2c » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:42 pm

The [Ne] refers to the electron configuration of Neon and the abbreviation is used as a shortcut for the electron configuration of another element. For Neon, the configuration is 1s22s22p6.

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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby Celine Khuu 2F » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:24 pm

The way that the problem is doing electron configuration is the shorthand way! [Ne] replaces the 1s^2 2s^2 2p^6 in the electron configuration of the element in question.

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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby Katryn Heine 3A » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:33 pm

The [Ne] is something referred to as noble gas configurations and they're basically a short cut to writing out the electron configurations. so instead of writing out the full first few configurations you can just put the noble gas that represents those configurations first and then add the addition configurations afterwards.

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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby madeleinewright » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:38 pm

The configuration with [Ne] in the beginning is the noble gas configuration for the element. Instead of writing out the entire ground-state electron configuration, you can write the most recent noble gas for the element and then write the ground-state electron configuration for the element following that noble gas.

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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby Thailer Phorn 1C » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:39 pm

Using the [Ne] is just a shortcut so that you do not have to write out the entire electron configuration. And I think that on a test it would be specified if we have to write out the entire configuration.

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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby Ginny Ghang 1B » Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:08 pm

[Ne] is just a shortcut or shorthand to make it easier when writing the electron configuration. You can use the noble gas elements, put them in brackets, and write out the last line of the electron configuration to make it shorter and easier to write. However, if it asks for the complete configuration, you have to write out the entire thing out without using the shortcut.

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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby Zoe Dhalla 3I » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:33 pm

Hi

So basically, that is the shorthand (or noble gas notation) of an element. To write in noble gas notation, simply start with the symbol of the noble gas in the previous period in brackets (like [Ne] for example), followed by the additional configuration of the electrons for the given element So in this situation, The notation [Ne] represents the core electron configuration, 1s^22s^22p^6, which is another way to say 10 electrons.

So, to solve this problem you can add 10 to the electrons given after the noble gas (because neon has 10 electrons), or write out the full configuration 1s^22s^22p^63s^2 3p^2 and solve normally.

Hope this helps!

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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby Tyler Olson 1E » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:35 pm

Having the [Ne] there makes it simpler to write out. It is just a shortcut rather than writing out the entire configuration. These can't be done with every element, only the noble gasses and unless a question is asking for the complete configuration it is easier to write it out in that way. Also by looking at the noble gas you can get the full configuration by writing out that of the noble gas and then adding the other electrons listed.

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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby Michelle Jeong 1B » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:53 pm

That's a short cut basically. Instead of writing out the whole electron configuration you can just start from the preceding noble gas.

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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby 305805394 » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:06 pm

Hi,

I think you could understand [Ne] as what the electron configuration of the atom X already owned. In this case, X should be at the next row of that where Ne is at. For [X], you could just write [Ne] plus specific electronic configurations after it for the sake of convenience.

For example, Na has an additional electron on the 3s orbital compared to Ne. In this case, you could directly write [Na]=[Ne]3s1, instead of [Na]=1s22s22p63s1.

I hope this could address your concerns.
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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby Rishab_Haldar_3B » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:15 pm

The symbol [Ne] refers to the electron configuration of the last noble gas where all of its shells are completely filled. The electrons that come after [Ne] are the electrons that are not part of a completely filled shell.

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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby Hannah Thornton 1F » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:57 pm

using an element in the [ ] brackets represents an abbreviated notation for its electron configuration. since part of the other atom's electron configuration is the same as the bracketed element, it makes it much simpler to represent that section of the configuration with the element's name.

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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby 405532435 » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:29 pm

Using other elements is a form of short hand to make it easier to write out these configurations. it’s basically that many electrons plus whatever follows that element, so all you have to do is add the amount of electrons in that element to the rest to find what the configuration is for.

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Re: Homework question on 25

Postby Wenhan Li_3d » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:53 pm

Ne is used as abbreviation and a shortcut when writing the electronic configuration because there are some configuration is really long and not necessary to write them all. But for some questions you should consider writing the full configuration based on what the question asked.


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