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Jonathan Liu 2I
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nodal planes

Postby Jonathan Liu 2I » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:09 pm

What does the nodal planes mean and what significance do they have

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Re: nodal planes

Postby Ethan Cheng 2k » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:13 pm

Hi,
Nodal planes are planes where the probability of finding an electron is 0. The s-orbital has no nodal plane because it is a sphere where electrons can exist. P-, d-, and f- orbitals all have nodal planes.

Dongfang Tian 1L
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Re: nodal planes

Postby Dongfang Tian 1L » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:17 pm

In addition to the properties mentioned, I believe nodal planes also exhibit the wave-like nature of electrons.

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Re: nodal planes

Postby Carlotta Gherardi 2J » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:20 pm

Hi,

to add to what has already been said above, I think it might help to know that p and d orbitals have nodal planes that cut across the nucleus because there is 0 probability of finding electrons there.

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Re: nodal planes

Postby Wendy Zhao 1I » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:26 pm

Nodal planes is the planes that have 0 electron density. s orbitals have no nodal planes, p orbitals have 1 nodal plane, d orbitals have 2 nodal planes. In the calculation of wave function, the probability of finding an electron in nodal planes is also 0.

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Re: nodal planes

Postby Zoe Apple 1F » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:41 pm

A nodal plane indicated that there is no electron density, which applies to the p, d, and f orbitals, but not the s orbital, as it has no nodal planes.

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Re: nodal planes

Postby Mekenna Faulkner » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:45 pm

Nodal planes have no electron density, meaning there is no chance of finding an electron within that area at any given time.

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Re: nodal planes

Postby Joseph Liao 3C » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:57 pm

How I think of it, nodal planes separate the orbitals in a p,d, etc. orbital. This is because the possibility of finding an electron on the plane is zero, so the orbitals naturally form away from the planes, with planes in between separate orbitals.

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Re: nodal planes

Postby Veronica Larson- 1I » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:14 pm

A nodal plane is where there is no electron density, so the probability of finding an electron there is zero. The s orbital doesn't have a nodal plane, but the p, d and f orbitals do.

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Re: nodal planes

Postby Kaira Shibata 1E » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:24 pm

Nodal planes are where there is no electron density and therefore no chance of finding an electron there.

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Re: nodal planes

Postby Christine Lin 1H » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:25 pm

Dongfang Tian 1L wrote:In addition to the properties mentioned, I believe nodal planes also exhibit the wave-like nature of electrons.


I remember that was something I didn't know before the exam. Do you know exactly how they contribute to the wave-like nature of electrons?

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Re: nodal planes

Postby Konmal Ali 1G » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:08 am

Hi,

Nodal planes are specific regions in which the possibility of finding an electron is about zero. To determine the location of the coordinates for a nodal plane, the Schrödinger wave equation is used. Nodal planes are significant because they can help determine the shape of orbitals.

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Re: nodal planes

Postby Maggie Clark » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:07 am

Planes that have no change of finding an electron.
s orbitals- have none because they are a sphere.
p orbitals- have 1 nodal plane.
d orbitals- have 2 nodal planes.

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Re: nodal planes

Postby Helen Ringley 2E » Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:20 am

Nodal planes are areas of the atom in which there is zero probability of finding an electron. This can be found using the wave function or looking at the particle in a box model. They are called nodal planes because they correspond to nodes on the wave model of an electron.

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Re: nodal planes

Postby Nicola Higgins 14B » Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:50 pm

Do f orbitals have a nodal plane? Why or why not?

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Re: nodal planes

Postby 505807269 » Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:54 pm

Nodal planes do not have any electron density, hence there is no possibility of detecting an electron there at any given time.

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Re: nodal planes

Postby Benicio Rivera 1F » Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:01 pm

Nodal planes are regions around the atomic nuclei where the likelihood of finding electrons is zero. The coordinates of these planes are found by solving the Schrödinger wave equation for atoms or molecules to find the shape of atomic and molecular orbitals.

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Re: nodal planes

Postby Dongfang Tian 1L » Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:17 pm

Plus, nodal planes show the wave nature of electrons, which was being examined in our midterm 1.

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Re: nodal planes

Postby Darlene Luu 1H » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:59 pm

Nodal planes are the regions around the atom with a 0% chance of finding an electron.


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