subshells and orbitals

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Funmi Baruwa
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subshells and orbitals

Postby Funmi Baruwa » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:48 am

What is the difference between a subshell and an orbital? I know an orbital has subshells, so maybe it means subshells are parts of orbitals, but if that were the case would that then mean that orbitals could have more than one type of subshell?

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Re: subshells and orbitals

Postby Faaizah Arshad 1H » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:54 am

A shell is all orbitals that have the same value of n. For example, the n = 2 shell.

A subshell is all orbitals with the same value of both n and l. For example, the n=2 shell can have l=0,1. A subshell could be 2s, or a subshell could be 2p.

Orbitals have the same value of n, l, ml. For example, the n =2 shell can have l=0,1, and ml = -1,0, +1. If we choose the 2p subshell, then an orbital could be 2px, which is ml = -1.

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Re: subshells and orbitals

Postby Sabina House 2A » Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:39 am

To expand, orbitals are part of subshells, and can hold either the same or less electrons. One example of a subshell would be 2s, which can only hold 2 electrons because it contains one orbital (and each orbital holds 2 electrons). However, the subshell 2p has three orbitals in it so it can hold 6 electrons, which is greater than the amount of electrons an orbital can hold. How I think of it is that subshells are contained within shells and orbitals are contained within subshells.

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Re: subshells and orbitals

Postby annabelchen2a » Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:54 pm

This might help clear things up:

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Funmi Baruwa
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Re: subshells and orbitals

Postby Funmi Baruwa » Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:53 am

this is actually very helpful thank you so much!

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Re: subshells and orbitals

Postby Chinmayi Mutyala 3H » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:28 pm

I think subshell is the combination of the shell and the which orbital it is (which would be represented by l). I'm not sure if this is the best way of explaining it.

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Re: subshells and orbitals

Postby Funmi Baruwa » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:38 pm

thank you!

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Re: subshells and orbitals

Postby Eileen Quach Dis 2A » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:51 pm

A subshell would be like the s,p,d, and f subshells. The s subshell has 1 orbital, p has 3 orbitals, d has 5 orbitals, and f has 7 orbitals (add 2 each time). Each orbital can "hold" a different number of electrons. For instance, the s subshell can hold 2 electrons in its one orbital and the p subshell can hold 6 electrons in its 3 orbitals. Each subshell can "hold" a number of electrons equal to two times its number of orbitals. Hope that helps clarify things!

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Re: subshells and orbitals

Postby Earl Garrovillo 2L » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:56 pm

I think you have it backward, orbitals are parts of a subshell, not the other way around. The order goes shell>subshell>orbital. Within a given subshell (s,p,d,f), there is a certain number of orbitals that can each contain 2 electrons.

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Re: subshells and orbitals

Postby Vanshika Bhushan 1A » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:01 pm

A shell contains one or more subshells. A subshell contains one or more orbitals. An orbital can contain up to 2 electrons. Shells are assigned a principle quantum number, n (n = 1, 2, 3, ...). Subshells are labeled differently as s, p, d, f. The orbitals are the specific region of space where the electron can be found, and are labeled, for example, px, py and pz.


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