Names of different orbitals

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Jordan_OBrien_2k
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Names of different orbitals

Postby Jordan_OBrien_2k » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:25 pm

I know that the p subshell has specific names for its orbitals: px, py, and pz. But do the 5 orbitals in d and the 7 orbitals in f also have a similar way to differentiate which specific orbital you are talking about?

Ashlen Bullock 1H
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Re: Names of different orbitals

Postby Ashlen Bullock 1H » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:34 pm

The f and d orbitals have a similar way to differentiate, but I do not think you have to memorize them.

Gabby Magat 3F
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Re: Names of different orbitals

Postby Gabby Magat 3F » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:38 pm

Yeah, I'm pretty sure! Though I don't think we would be expected to name them exactly (I wasn't sure so I looked it up and added a picture here), but I could see a question asking us for the p-orbital since we know . For d and f-subshells, we would probably have to know that n=3, l=2 would only allow an .

Some of the images that pop up with the d and f-subshells refer to the orbitals just by number (like for example. The image I attached is a bit complex, so I don't think we would be expected to know those exact names, just the principle that ml = -1 refers to a different orbital than ml = 1, etc.
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Re: Names of different orbitals

Postby ShinwooKim_3E » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:55 pm

I don't think we have to know the names and shapes past the d orbitals.

Lizbeth Garcia 1F
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Re: Names of different orbitals

Postby Lizbeth Garcia 1F » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:01 pm

I think they do have specific names. If you want to know how they look, the book has pictures of them, but we do not need to actually learn their names.

Kayla Booker 1F
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Re: Names of different orbitals

Postby Kayla Booker 1F » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:35 pm

They do, but I don't think we have to have them memorized, at least not for 14A

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Re: Names of different orbitals

Postby Jordan_OBrien_2k » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:02 pm

Gabby Magat 1K wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure! Though I don't think we would be expected to name them exactly (I wasn't sure so I looked it up and added a picture here), but I could see a question asking us for the p-orbital since we know . For d and f-subshells, we would probably have to know that n=3, l=2 would only allow an .

Some of the images that pop up with the d and f-subshells refer to the orbitals just by number (like for example. The image I attached is a bit complex, so I don't think we would be expected to know those exact names, just the principle that ml = -1 refers to a different orbital than ml = 1, etc.

Thank you so much! This was really helpful

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Re: Names of different orbitals

Postby Karina Grover 1A » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:10 pm

Yes, the d and f orbitals have different (specific) configurations just as the p orbital does. However, I do not think it is necessary to memorize the specifics of these orbitals, as they are far more complicated and not entirely of focus in this class.


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