I was reviewing this question: "Explain the order of electron filling in atoms of K, Ca, and Sc."
My understanding is that the 4S subshell is lower in energy than 3D when it is empty, so it fills up first in K and Ca. But would the 4S or 3D subshell fill first in scandium, and why?
Thank you!
Order of Filling 3D and 4S Orbitals
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Re: Order of Filling 3D and 4S Orbitals
Postby Luveia Pangilinan 1A » Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:28 pm
The transition metals of 3d orbital actually become lower than the energy of 4s! It's also to avoid electron repulsion :D
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Re: Order of Filling 3D and 4S Orbitals
Postby Faaizah Arshad 1H » Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:05 pm
I am still confused about this. For K and Ca, is the 4s subshell always lower energy, so 4s fills first? For Sc and all transition metals, is the 3d subshell always lower in energy, so 3d fills first?
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