Determining ml quantum number  [ENDORSED]

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Determining ml quantum number

Postby KyLee 1H » Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:16 am

Hey, so I understand stand how we can determine all of the quantum numbers except for the third one : ml. I understand what the range is and how it is related to the previous numbers, but how do we find the exact number (ex -1, 0, 1, 2.... etc) for a specific electron? Is it just in order?

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Re: Determining ml quantum number

Postby Sadhana Jeyakumar 2J » Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:22 am

To determine the specific quantum number, I place the electrons in order to see where the last electron is placed.
For example, if I am trying to find the quantum number for the fourth electron in , I know that n = 2 and l = 1. As l = 1, possible values for include -1, 0, and 1.

Because there are 4 electrons in the p orbital, the fourth electron must lie in the orbital (applying Hund's rule). Therefore, = -1

I hope that helps!

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Re: Determining ml quantum number

Postby Meghan Spoeri 2D » Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:28 am

Hi!

ml corresponds to the orientation of the electron, and it labels different orbitals of a subshell. Each ml value corresponds to a specific l, for instance, l=1 can have a ml value of -1, 0, or 1. There are 3 different ml values for l=1 because l=1 corresponds to the p orbital, and there are 3 orbitals within the p subshell, px, py, and pz. -1,0, and 1 each correspond to a different orbital px, py, and pz.

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Re: Determining ml quantum number

Postby Chem_Mod » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:21 am

Ml will always range from (-l)-(+l). So for example, if you have a quantum number l (angular momentum quantum number) value of 2, all the possible ml values are; -2,-1,0,1,2. So there are multiple orbitals that can have the same n and l combination but different ml (magnetic quantum number).

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Re: Determining ml quantum number  [ENDORSED]

Postby Martha Avila 1I » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:36 am

Hello. So when determining the ml quantum number you will always have a range of possible values unless directly specified. For example if you know that n=3 you know that l = 2 and this entails that all of your possible ml values are -2,-1,0,1,2. You can be told to give all possible values of ml and in this case you would be done but if you are told to find the exact value you must keep in mind the number of orbitals as well as electrons.

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Re: Determining ml quantum number

Postby Michelle Li 2B » Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:34 am

Hi! If I understand correctly, you're asking how to determine which ml number corresponds to each orientation/electron in the electron configuration? So like which values of ml = -1, 0, +1 would be px, py, or pz? I was also confused about this and asked in a review session today, and the TA said that we probably won't have to assign ml values to a certain orientation x, y, or z, since it's random. That's what I learned from the session, but anyone feel free to correct me if Dr. Lavelle or another TA said something different!


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