Hund's Rule  [ENDORSED]

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Hund's Rule

Postby Anthony Stone 1K » Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:57 pm

Can someone explain Hund's Rule? Im a bit confused by it

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Re: Hund's Rule

Postby KyLee 1H » Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:00 pm

Hund's Rule states that orbitals in a sublevel must be singly occupied before doubling up. Also, these singly occupied orbitals must have electrons with the same spin (parallel).

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Re: Hund's Rule

Postby Aryan Singh 3F » Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:22 pm

Yep, I agree with the previous poster. Hund's Rule states that each suborbital in an orbital must have one electron each before any suborbital is filled with two electrons. This is contrast to Pauli's Exclusion Principle which specifies that a suborbital can only hold 2 electrons max.

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Re: Hund's Rule

Postby Michael 1G » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:45 pm

Hund's rule basically states in every subshell, there must be at least one electron in each orbital before a previous orbital can have two electrons. For example in a 2px orbital there can only be one electron in it if there isn't at least one electron present in the 2py and 2pz orbitals first.

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Re: Hund's Rule

Postby Albert 1I » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:54 pm

Hund's rule states that electrons do not pair up in orbitals until they have to; for example in a 2p subshell there are 6 possible electrons (2 in each orbital). If there are 3 electrons in the said 2p subshell, they will each occupy an orbital rather than being in the same one.

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Re: Hund's Rule

Postby Shay Crookall 2L » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:00 pm

Everything that everyone has said above is great! Also want to add that it states that any electrons in singly-occupied orbitals are the same spin.

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Re: Hund's Rule

Postby Diya Kar » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:07 pm

Does the Pauli Exclusion criteria dictate that two electrons within an orbital must have opposite spins while Hund Rule's indicates that electrons must be unpaired in each orbital before they can be paired(parallel rule)?

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Re: Hund's Rule

Postby Anish_Marripati_2F » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:39 pm

Hund's Rule states that each orbital must be filled with one electron before it can have another electron of opposite spin.

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Re: Hund's Rule

Postby Uma Patil 2A » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:46 am

Hunds rule states that each orbital in a subshell has one electron in it before one of the orbitals receives a second electron.

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Re: Hund's Rule

Postby Joanna Zhao 1J » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:44 am

Every comment above mine is correct! I'd like to add that the reason why all orbitals in a subshell must be singly occupied before electrons start "pairing up" is because of electron-electron repulsion. Not to anthropomorphize electrons, but their negative charges repel each other so if there is still an empty orbital, the electron will go there before electrons start needing to pair up and share orbitals.

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Re: Hund's Rule  [ENDORSED]

Postby Chem_Mod » Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:31 am

Hund’s rule has two main components to it

1. Every orbital in a sub level must be singly occupied, before any can be double occupied
-in simple terms, every orbital must have at least one electron in it, before any can have two
-see the electron configuration of oxygen, where every orbital in 2p has at least one electron in it, so it’s appropriate that one has two since all orbitals have at least 1 electron

2. In a sub level that has multiple singly occupied orbitals, they all must have the same spin
-so maximize total spin, all the electrons will have the same spin
-see the electron configuration of Nitrogen, all electrons in the 2p orbital are all facing upward and have the same spin
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Re: Hund's Rule

Postby SuryaDham 3E » Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:26 am

Hund's Rule basically states that every orbital in a sublevel is singly occupied before any orbital is doubly occupied and all of the electrons in singly occupied orbitals have the same spin (to maximize total spin).

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Re: Hund's Rule

Postby Aaron Kwan 3B » Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:40 pm

does Hund's rule mention anything about the maximum number of electrons in an orbital?

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Re: Hund's Rule

Postby Nishan Reddy 3K » Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:25 pm

It essentially states that each orbital of a certain type (s, p, d, f) must filled with one electron (with parallel spins) before each orbital could be filled with a second.

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Re: Hund's Rule

Postby Caitlyn Lo 2F » Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:23 pm

Hund's Rule states that each orbital must be filled with an individual electron before pairs of electrons can be in the same orbital at opposite spins.

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Re: Hund's Rule

Postby Nicola Higgins 14B » Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:20 pm

Does anyone have an acronym or pneumonic for memorizing the different rules and what they mean? I have trouble with Hund's, The Pauli Exclusion Principle, and the Aufbau Principle.


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