positive and negative ion

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positive and negative ion

Postby 505612629 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:47 pm

Is the radius of the element larger or smaller when it has a positive or negative ion?

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Re: positive and negative ion

Postby Savana Maxfield 3F » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:49 pm

A negative ion has a larger radius than the original element, while a positive ion has a smaller atomic radius.

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Re: positive and negative ion

Postby Algernon Jackson 2l » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:51 pm

The radius of the element is larger when the ion is negatively charged.

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Re: positive and negative ion

Postby 305572629 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:53 pm

The above statements are true, but remember to look at the element's location on the periodic table because as you go closer and closer to the bottom left corner, the radius gets bigger, then you must remember to consider whether or not it is an ion (positive or negative).

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Re: positive and negative ion

Postby LaurenChoi_1J » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:13 pm

I believe negative ions have a higher atomic radius because they have more electrons, but someone please correct me if I am wrong!

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Re: positive and negative ion

Postby Lillian » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:26 pm

The negative ion would have a larger radius because in this case, the nuclear charge stays the same (if they're the same element). The only thing that would be changing is the number of electrons, meaning the radius would be bigger.

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Re: positive and negative ion

Postby Ellison Gonzales 1H » Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:07 pm

Lillian wrote:The negative ion would have a larger radius because in this case, the nuclear charge stays the same (if they're the same element). The only thing that would be changing is the number of electrons, meaning the radius would be bigger.

I understand the size of the radius correlating with whether it is an anion or cation, but what do you mean about the nuclear charge staying the same? I don’t fully understand that concept/statement

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Re: positive and negative ion

Postby Ellison Gonzales 1H » Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:09 pm

The reason the radius of an element is larger when the ion is negative is because there is an additional e- going to the outer shell that causes more e- repulsion, therefore making anions much bigger than their neutral atom.

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Re: positive and negative ion

Postby Griffin G » Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:23 pm

Anions have a larger atomic radius than cations, because the added electron decreases the net charge of the nucleus, i believe.

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Re: positive and negative ion

Postby Anthony_Sandoval_1D » Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:28 pm

Negatively charged ion have a larger radius than positively charged ions.

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Re: positive and negative ion

Postby Lillian » Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:05 am

Ellison Gonzales 3F wrote:
Lillian wrote:The negative ion would have a larger radius because in this case, the nuclear charge stays the same (if they're the same element). The only thing that would be changing is the number of electrons, meaning the radius would be bigger.

I understand the size of the radius correlating with whether it is an anion or cation, but what do you mean about the nuclear charge staying the same? I don’t fully understand that concept/statement

By nuclear charge staying the same, I meant that the number of protons stays the same. Since the number of protons do not change, the charge of the nucleus remains.

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Re: positive and negative ion

Postby Heidi Buri 2I » Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:09 am

Hi! I believe that the radius of an element is smaller when the ion is positive. When the ion is negative, the radius of the element is larger.

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Re: positive and negative ion

Postby Katie Nye 2F » Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:17 am

Negative ions are larger than the positive or neutral counterparts.

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Re: positive and negative ion

Postby Shalyn Kelly 3H » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:46 am

Hi! As stated in all of the above posts, an element with a negatively charged ion has a larger radius than one that's positively charged. There are also the periodic table trends you can use for quick reference.

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Re: positive and negative ion

Postby Sejal Parsi 3K » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:27 am

Hi! An element with a negatively charged ion will have a larger radius because it has additional electrons than one that's positively charged. It's good to check the periodic table and follow trends if it is not for the same element though.


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