Accuracy vs Precision

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Accuracy vs Precision

Postby Caroline Crotty 1D » Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:36 pm

I remember the example we used in class, but I am unsure how to tell which is which. One is when all measurements are close together, but not the desired amount? The other is when all the measurements are on target?

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby Chem_Mod » Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:09 pm

Accuracy is on target. Precision is how closely you can repeatedly measure a thing.

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby Allen Chen 1J » Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:11 pm

Chem_Mod wrote:Accuracy is on target. Precision is how closely you can repeatedly measure a thing.

What is the chemistry context in which these differences will be most important?

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby Chem_Mod » Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:14 pm

It will be important when you do the experiment. Suppose you have a balance which you use to measure the mass of a chemical. The balance can have poor precision, meaning the numbers fluctuate all the time and you are not very certain. Or it can have good precision, where the numbers are always close if you measure the same thing over and over. I hope this example helps.

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby Bryan Jiang 1F » Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:22 pm

Caroline Crotty 1D wrote:I remember the example we used in class, but I am unsure how to tell which is which. One is when all measurements are close together, but not the desired amount? The other is when all the measurements are on target?

Accuracy means how close your measurements are to the true/correct value. Precision means how close your measurements are to each other. They are not mututally exclusive, so it is possible, as you said, that all measurements are close together but not the desired amount (very precise, but not very accurate). However, it is also possible that all measurements are close together and are the desired amount (both very precise and very accurate).
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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby joannehaddad » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:26 pm

Precision is how close to each other they are, and accuracy is how close to the true value they are.

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby Natalie_Martinez_1I » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:37 pm

Accuracy tells you how close you are to the the true value, whereas precision indicates how close measurements are to one another.

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby Haison Nguyen 1I » Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:24 am

Accuracy is how close your results are to the true value. Precision is how close your results are to each other.

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby Paywand Baghal » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:23 pm

Allen Chen 1J wrote:
Chem_Mod wrote:Accuracy is on target. Precision is how closely you can repeatedly measure a thing.

What is the chemistry context in which these differences will be most important?


In context of chem, accuracy would be consistency getting the same, or around the same, answer when doing an experiment. Precision would be getting an answer which is correct.

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby KristinaNguyen_1A » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:39 pm

I went to a UA office hour and how she described it was that:
Precision= how CLOSE measurements are to ONE ANOTHER
Accuracy= closeness of measurements to its TRUE VALUES

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby Maria Zamarripa 1L » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:31 pm

Precision is how close the measurements are to one another and accuracy is how close the measurements are to the true value.

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby breannasung_1K » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:46 am

Precision is how close the measurements/ data are to one another. Accuracy is the closeness of the measurements/ data to their correct values.

When you have high precision and low accuracy, you can multiply all your data by some value to get higher accuracy.

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby 004985802 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:01 pm

accuracy measures how close your results are to the true value, and precision measures how exact and consistent your results are

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby Jessica Lancisi - 1I » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:47 pm

@Paywand Baghal, I think that it would be the other way around- In a chemical context, accuracy would be getting the correct value, and precision would be getting the same or close to the same result each time. Precision without accuracy shows that there may be a mistake in the experiment that keeps getting repeated.

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby Rummel Requerme 1E » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:16 pm

Essentially accuracy is how close you are to the actual result, as precision is how close your results are in respect to one another.

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby Hope_Pham_1G » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:54 pm

When visualizing accuracy, think of a bulls-eye target with many shots near the center, but scattered within the radius of the bulls-eye in any direction. The results appear very disbursed. When visualizing precision, think of a bulls-eye target with many shots clumped together, but not necessarily within close range of the bulls eye. The important aspect of precision is that the same value is achieved consistently even if the value is not equal to the true value.

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby Taizha 1C » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:59 pm

According to lecture precision indicates how close measurements are to one another while accuracy is the accuracy to the true value.

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby ran2000 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:45 pm

From an experimental chemistry standpoint, an example of accuracy vs. precision would be:
If we conducted an experiment to test the volumes of carbon dioxide released when different concentrations of acid were added to metal carbonates, the study would have-
1. Low accuracy and Low precision if the the volumes of CO2 were found to be very variable (1.3l, 1.7l, 1.8l, 1.0l, 1.6l) and the method used to measure it was wrong (such as the calculating the volume of a balloon after it filled up with CO2, but without maintaining a constant temperature)
2. Low accuracy but high precision if the volumes of CO2 were found to be very close to one another (1.0l, 1.1l, 1,0l, 1.1l, 1.0l) but the method used had a systematic error such as the method of measurement of volume would not provide the actual volume measurement.
3. High accuracy but low precision if the volumes of CO2 were found to be variable (1.7l, 1.9l, 1.1l, 1.4l, 2.0l) but the method of volume measurement did not have any systematic errors, rather the variability in the volume was a problem of random errors.
4. High accuracy and high precision if the volumes of CO2 were found to be close to each other (1.0l, 1.1l, 1.0l, 1.0l, 1.1l) and the method of volume measurement did not have any systematic errors (the method used to measure volume would provide the true values)

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby ariellasarkissian_3H » Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:50 pm

Caroline Crotty 1D wrote:I remember the example we used in class, but I am unsure how to tell which is which. One is when all measurements are close together, but not the desired amount? The other is when all the measurements are on target?


Accuracy is how close your value is to the true/exact value. Precision is producing values that are close in proximity. In some cases, if you receive the same value multiple times you are precise, but if it is not close to the exact value, you are not accurate.

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby Madeline Motamedi 4I » Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:40 am

So there are four scenarios
1. Low accuracy and low precision
2. Low accuracy and high precision
3. High accuracy and low precision
4. High accuracy and high precision
Obviously we are shooting to get high accuracy and high precision; although, in the event that your data isn't, would it be worse to have high accuracy and low precision or low accuracy and high precision?

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby Adam Vuilleumier 2K » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:09 pm

Another interesting definition of accuracy - Accuracy can be defined as when the average experimental value is close to the true value. For example, if the three following measurements were taken of a 30 mL sample of water: 20 mL, 35 mL, and 35 mL, the average value of this measurement is 30 mL. By this definition, the sample is considered accurate but not precise.

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby Rebecca Altshuler 1D » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:07 am

How can values be accurate but not precise? If all the values are accurate (close to the true value) how can they still be not precise in relation to each other?

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Re: Accuracy vs Precision

Postby Elena Maneffa 1E » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:52 pm

Rebecca Altshuler 1E wrote:How can values be accurate but not precise? If all the values are accurate (close to the true value) how can they still be not precise in relation to each other


Values can be accurate but not precise because each measurement may be close to the true value (relatively) however not relatively close enough to each other to be considered precise.


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