Spectral Lines

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Samin Kabir
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Spectral Lines

Postby Samin Kabir » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:46 pm

Did he cover how to find spectral lines yet? If so, how would you calculate number of spectral lines? Would it be n-1 or something like that?

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Re: Spectral Lines

Postby SavannahScriven_1F » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:52 pm

He didn't cover how to find them yet. From my understanding, they are detected when a bunch of different frequencies of light are shined on an element. The lines only show up if they match a certain very specific energy level. So the numbers appear to be empirically derived from experimental observations rather than calculated. I don't know completely though, and it would be cool if there were a mathematical model to predict how many lines an element will emit!

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Re: Spectral Lines

Postby Josh Chou 3K » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:56 pm

I'm also a bit confused on this topic. Do we just take the difference between n-levels? For example, if an electron starts at the n=6 level and falls to the n=1 level, did it "pass" 5 spectral lines? And if an electron starts at the n=4 level and drops to the n=2 level, did it "pass" 2 spectral lines?

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Re: Spectral Lines

Postby David Jen 1J » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:15 pm

Josh Chou 1I wrote:I'm also a bit confused on this topic. Do we just take the difference between n-levels? For example, if an electron starts at the n=6 level and falls to the n=1 level, did it "pass" 5 spectral lines? And if an electron starts at the n=4 level and drops to the n=2 level, did it "pass" 2 spectral lines?


I think what you are saying is correct because the textbook refers to spectral lines as energy levels of which an electron can have.

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Re: Spectral Lines

Postby SavannahScriven_1F » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:42 pm

SavannahScriven_2E wrote:He didn't cover how to find them yet. From my understanding, they are detected when a bunch of different frequencies of light are shined on an element. The lines only show up if they match a certain very specific energy level. So the numbers appear to be empirically derived from experimental observations rather than calculated. I don't know completely though, and it would be cool if there were a mathematical model to predict how many lines an element will emit!


I looked a little more into this and came up with a better response that hopefully answers your question. Let's say an election drops from n=4 to n=1. The emitted energy would then correlate to one spectral line of particular frequency. Now let's say the electron drops from n=4 to n=3, and then later to n=1. The emitted energy would then produce two spectral lines. There can be a number of factors (i.e. temperature) that influence how many levels an electron drops at a time. Hope this helps.

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Re: Spectral Lines

Postby Jaden Ji 2K » Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:59 pm

SavannahScriven_2E wrote:
SavannahScriven_2E wrote:He didn't cover how to find them yet. From my understanding, they are detected when a bunch of different frequencies of light are shined on an element. The lines only show up if they match a certain very specific energy level. So the numbers appear to be empirically derived from experimental observations rather than calculated. I don't know completely though, and it would be cool if there were a mathematical model to predict how many lines an element will emit!


I looked a little more into this and came up with a better response that hopefully answers your question. Let's say an election drops from n=4 to n=1. The emitted energy would then correlate to one spectral line of particular frequency. Now let's say the electron drops from n=4 to n=3, and then later to n=1. The emitted energy would then produce two spectral lines. There can be a number of factors (i.e. temperature) that influence how many levels an electron drops at a time. Hope this helps.

That's really cool! So the amount of times the electron drops equal the amount of spectral lines!

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Re: Spectral Lines

Postby Catherine Bubser 2C » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:51 am

So when we are asked to identify the number of spectral lines that could appear when an electron drops levels, do we include the level it started at? I'm slightly confused still.

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Re: Spectral Lines

Postby Samin Kabir » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:10 am

Thanks everyone this means a lot!


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