Notation of electron configurations of ions

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Katherine Fitzgerald 1A
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Notation of electron configurations of ions

Postby Katherine Fitzgerald 1A » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:30 am

In 2A3(b), we are asked to give the electron configuration for As3+. The configuration for As is normally [Ar]4s24p3. However, when As loses three electrons, the configuration is [Ar]3d104s2. I am comfortable with the idea that it loses 3 electrons from 4p3. However, I don't understand why the electron configuration is now [Ar]3d104s2 instead of just [Ar]4s2. Why include the 3d10 if you still haven't removed the 4s2 shell? Is it really valence in that case, especially when it is filled? On the flip side, why do we not write As as [Ar]3d104s24p3?

Gwynneth Orlino 1B
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Re: Notation of electron configurations of ions

Postby Gwynneth Orlino 1B » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:51 pm

The configuration for As is [Ar] 3d10 4s2 4p3. So As3+ would be [Ar] 3d10 4s2.

Kevin To 1B
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Re: Notation of electron configurations of ions

Postby Kevin To 1B » Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:41 pm

The 3d10 orbital has to be included in the electron configuration.

Yasmin Olvera 1D
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Re: Notation of electron configurations of ions

Postby Yasmin Olvera 1D » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:13 pm

Since As is in the fourth period it will include 3d10 in its original configuration

somyapanchal1D
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Re: Notation of electron configurations of ions

Postby somyapanchal1D » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:55 pm

The electron configuration for As is [Ar]3d104s24p3. As3+ means that 3 electrons have been removed. When you're writing the electron configuration for As3+, you remove electrons from the valence shell. In this case, you remove electrons from the 4p orbital. Thus, you get [Ar]3d104s2. You cannot just remove 3d10 from the answer because you have not removed electrons from the 3d orbital yet.

Daniel Kim 1D
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Re: Notation of electron configurations of ions

Postby Daniel Kim 1D » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:34 pm

As is in the fourth period, therefore, 3d being a lower energy level it will be included in the electron configuration before 4s.


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