Pi and Sigma Bonds

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Pi and Sigma Bonds

Postby Diego Salgues 2K » Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:07 pm

Just to check, in every pi bond, there is a sigma bond? Correct?

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Re: Pi and Sigma Bonds

Postby Charmaine Ho 2G » Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:10 pm

Yes, a pi bond must exist along with a sigma bond.

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Re: Pi and Sigma Bonds

Postby Romi Moore 3k » Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:11 pm

I think it might be the other way around, but someone can correct me if Im wrong because im not sure.

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Re: Pi and Sigma Bonds

Postby 705676154 » Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:30 pm

Hii, yes in every pi bond theres a sigma bond

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Re: Pi and Sigma Bonds

Postby Nick Oscarson 1K » Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:04 am

Correct! Sigma bonds are formed whenever atomic orbitals overlap along the bond axis. Pi bonds, on the other hand, form whenever p orbitals overlap and appear perpendicular to sigma bonds. Because of this, pi bonds will only occur if sigma bonds are present.

I'll link a video that gives more of a visual explanation!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT8nrBrTOm4

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Re: Pi and Sigma Bonds

Postby Madeline_Miller » Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:25 am

Hey! Any bond is a sigma bond. A pi bond counts as a double or triple bond. So, yes. Within every pi bond is a sigma bond.

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Re: Pi and Sigma Bonds

Postby Mason_Hoppe_1A » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:57 pm

I'm a little confused but this could be just me overanalyzing terminology. Sigma bonds are not literally within pi bonds, correct? For example, in a double bond, is one of the two is sigma while the other is pi or are they merged?

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Re: Pi and Sigma Bonds

Postby Shannon Clark 1F » Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:14 pm

Yes! Pi bonds only exist with sigma bonds! Sigma bonds are every single bond, and then when there is a double bond there is one sigma and one pi bond. Triple bonds contain on sigma bond and two pi bonds.

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Re: Pi and Sigma Bonds

Postby Evonne Chau 2I » Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:26 pm

Hi Diego,

You are correct! Pi bonds can only exist when there are sigma bonds. For example, when there is a double bond, there is one sigma bond and one pi. When there is a triple bond, there is one sigma bond and two pi bonds. Sigma bonds are formed whenever atomic orbitals overlap along the bond axis. Pi bonds are formed whenever there's an overlap of parallel p-orbitals on adjacent atoms.

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Re: Pi and Sigma Bonds

Postby Diego Gonzalez 1H » Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:38 pm

Yes, but I think you worded it a bit off. Instead of saying there is a sigma bond in every pi bond I think you meant to say there is a sigma bond in every bond. However, yes, there is a single sigma bond in double and triple bonds.

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Re: Pi and Sigma Bonds

Postby Isabelle Kludt 2B » Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:41 pm

Yep so for double there's one sigma and one pi and for triple bond there's one sigma and two pi.

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Re: Pi and Sigma Bonds

Postby Daniel Tabibian 3K » Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:42 pm

Pi bonds only exist with a sigma bond alongside it since sigma is always the first bond.

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Re: Pi and Sigma Bonds

Postby 205819952 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:16 pm

in every pi bond theres a sigma bond

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Re: Pi and Sigma Bonds

Postby Prithvi Raj 3E » Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:09 pm

Yes, if there ever is a pi bond, there is also a sigma bond. For every bond after a single bond, you tack on a pi bond. But you only start introducing pi bonds after the inclusion of one sigma bond.

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Re: Pi and Sigma Bonds

Postby Arpita Padhy 3E » Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:52 pm

Yes, this is because the pi bond is only present after there is already a sigma bond. For example, in a single bond, it is only a sigma bond, in double bonds, there is one sigma and one double bond, and in triple bonds, there is one sigma bond and two pi bonds.

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Re: Pi and Sigma Bonds

Postby Kelly McFarlane » Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:29 am

Yes, since pi bonds result from double bonds and double bonds consist of a sigma bond and a pi bond.


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