Sigma and Pi Bonds

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Claudia_Danysh_2B
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Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby Claudia_Danysh_2B » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:46 am

So I'm trying to sort out my understanding and was wondering if somebody could tell me if this is right. So, a single bond is a sigma bond and that a double bond is one sigma and one pi bond, but a double bond is also just called a pi bond even though its one pi bond and one sigma bond. Right?

Megan Chan 3A
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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby Megan Chan 3A » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:57 am

I don't believe that is the case. A double bond consists of a pi bond but it is not called one. Can anyone confirm?

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby Quinton Sprague 1A » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:57 am

I believe you are correct in that a double bond can be considered just a pi bond, however, as I am sure we will get questions regarding how many of each bonds are present and others along these lines, I would air on the side of caution and label every double bond as one sigma and one pi, rather than simply a pi bond. Hope this is of some help.

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby Eva Becker » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:48 pm

Claudia_Danysh_2C wrote:So I'm trying to sort out my understanding and was wondering if somebody could tell me if this is right. So, a single bond is a sigma bond and that a double bond is one sigma and one pi bond, but a double bond is also just called a pi bond even though its one pi bond and one sigma bond. Right?


A pi bond occurs when there are 2 orbitals, each with one electron, overlapping side-by-side. Bound atoms in pi bonds cannot rotate as this will stop them from overlapping side-by-side, breaking the bond. I don't think double bonds are referred to as pi bonds, since both a sigma AND a pi bond are present. I hope this helps!

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby Sophia Kalanski 1A » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:34 pm

I don't believe that a double bond are called pi bonds since it contains both a sigma bond and a pi bond. I think that the thing you need to know though about double bonds is that since it has a pi bond, it is unable to rotate.

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby Muskaan Abdul-Sattar » Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:42 pm

It contains both a sigma and pi bond within a double bond so I believe that is why you refer to it as a pi bond.

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby Joshua Chung 2D » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:15 pm

I'm not completely sure if double bonds are commonly referred to as pi bonds, but they include one sigma and one pi bond. Thus, it is distinct from a normal pi bond (ie single bond).

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby Moura Girgis 1F » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:09 pm

I think that, in general, since both single and double bonds have a a sigma, but only double bonds have a pi, they could be referred to has simply pi bonds.

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby Morgan Gee 3B » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:12 pm

All bonds have one sigma bond. A double bond has one sigma bond and one pi bond. A triple bond has one sigma bond and two pi bonds.

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby Karina Grover 1A » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:46 pm

You are correct that a single bond is denoted by a sigma bond. However, a double bond is denoted by BOTH a sigma bond and a pi bond; essentially, a double bond cannot just be called a "pi bond" because it contains both types of bonds.

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby CesarLec1 » Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:34 am

Every bond has a sigma bond which is easy to remember. Double bond therefore has a sigma and a pi bond and triple has a sigma and 2 pi bonds. Therefore to remember, add a pi bond for every extra bond then add them up to see if it equals the total amount of bonds.

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby Javier Perez M 1H » Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:02 am

Most definitely, one bond is a sigma everything after in that same bond region would be Pi bonds because those are the ones that stop rotation for the most part.

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby George_Yin_3I » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:18 am

Yes, a single bond contain one sigma bond, while a double bond contain one single and one pi bonds.

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby George_Yin_3I » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:19 am

Also, as the bond strength increases, like in a triple bond, there is still one sigma bonds, and (3-1) pi bonds. It all acts this way.

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby BoparaiAdeshsurjit2F » Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:40 pm

Yes one bond is a sigma bond and two bonds is one sigma bond and one pi bond but still called a Pi bond.

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby DPatel_2L » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:46 pm

A single bond is a sigma bond while a double is one sigma and one pi

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby Karina Grover 1A » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:16 pm

Hi Claudia, the only thing I think you are mistaken about is the name of the double bond. Even though double bonds consist of a single pi bond, they are not often referred to as simply a "pi bond." But you are right, make sure to remember that a double consists of a sigma bond AND a pi bond!

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby Brianna Chen 3F » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:01 pm

Like some students have said above, I don’t believe a double bond is solely considered a pi-bond because it contains one sigma and one pi bond. You just have to know that a double bond consists of one sigma and one pi bond.

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby Sydney Jensen 3L » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:51 pm

A single bond is a sigma bond, but a double bond includes both a sigma bond and a pi bond.

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby Caelin Brenninkmeijer 1G » Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:04 pm

You're right as in a single bond only contains a sigma bond while a double bond contains both a sigma and a pi bond. However, I don't think you can refer to a double bond solely as a pi bond because both sigma and pi bonds are present in a double bond.

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby Halle Villalobos 3E » Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:51 pm

Hi! A single bond has one sigma bond. A double bond has one sigma and one pi bond. A triple bond has one sigma and two pi bonds.

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby 205323697 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:57 am

What is it shared space called when the two orbitals next to each other when there are two s orbitals, compared to having two p orbitals?

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby 005683006 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:22 pm

WHat are the physical differences between sigma and pi bonds?

DArcy Perlman 1C
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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby DArcy Perlman 1C » Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:01 pm

I don't think so. I think a single bond is a sigma bond and every bond added after that is a pi bond, for example a single bond is a sigma bond, a double bond is a sigma bond and a pi bond, and a triple bond is a sigma bond and two pi bonds. So basically sigma bonds are the initial bonds, and pi bonds are the additional bonds.

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Re: Sigma and Pi Bonds

Postby Jonathan Shyu 3L » Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:38 pm

Single bonds only contain sigma bonds, so they are referred to as sigma bonds. Double bonds have both sigma and pi bonds, so they can be referred to as pi bonds to differentiate from single bonds.


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