Sapling Q #16

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Jared Limqueco 3E
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Sapling Q #16

Postby Jared Limqueco 3E » Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:57 pm

Which of the species contains a delocalized pi bond? HCN, O3, H2O, [CO3]2-

How do I approach this? What does it mean to be delocalized?

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Re: Sapling Q #16

Postby dana hu 1B » Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:00 pm

A delocalized pi bond tells us there is resonance in the lewis structure of the molecule because a certain pi bond can exist in more than one configuration.
it should be o3 and co3-2

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Re: Sapling Q #16

Postby Eva Becker » Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:00 pm

Jared Limqueco 1H wrote:Which of the species contains a delocalized pi bond? HCN, O3, H2O, [CO3]2-

How do I approach this? What does it mean to be delocalized?


Hi! First we need to identity which molecules have pi bonds which can be easily identified when we draw the molecular structures and look for any double and/or triple bonds. To be delocalized, the structure with pi bonds (double or triple bonds) must also have a resonance structure. Thus, the answer is whichever molecules with double and/or triple bonds that have resonance structures.

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Re: Sapling Q #16

Postby Halle Villalobos 3E » Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:01 pm

Hi! Delocalized pi bonds occur when pi orbitals extend over more than two atoms. In terms of Lewis structures, this occurs with resonance structures involving double and triple bonds. I hope this helps!

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Re: Sapling Q #16

Postby Varsha Ravi 3E » Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:02 pm

Species with delocalized electrons usually have resonance structures, since there's multiple equally likely structures, the electrons are "delocalized" and spread throughout the multiple structures. They also often have double or triple bonds (which have pi bonds, since double bonds have 1 pi bond + 1 sigma bond, and triple bonds have 2 pi bonds + 1 sigma bonds). Therefore, look for the species in the list that have resonance structures and double/triple bonds.

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Re: Sapling Q #16

Postby Stephen Min 1I » Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:09 pm

To approach this you would examine the Lewis structures for species that have resonance since the delocalized electrons are spread throughout the species.

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Re: Sapling Q #16

Postby Isabella Cortes 2H » Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:24 pm

to approach this problem you would look for the molecules that has resonance structures since it indicates that electrons are spread throughout the molecule, thus the electrons are delocalized.

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Re: Sapling Q #16

Postby Astha Patel 2J » Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:26 pm

Molecules with resonance structures where the double or triple bond can be moved among different atoms consist of pi bonds, so depending on the lewis structures and whether resonance is possible, that can show whether the bonds are delocalized.

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Re: Sapling Q #16

Postby Kat Stahl 2K » Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:37 pm

I found a video that I thought was really helpful in this concept. Here it is!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2Z2tASz7Uk
Hope this helps you!

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Re: Sapling Q #16

Postby Rachel Kho Disc 2G » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:17 pm

You would need to first discern which molecules have double or triple bonds (which have one pi bond and two pi bonds, respectively). Of these molecules, you would then determine whether or not there are resonance structures in which the double or triple bonds can be moved around. If that is the case, then this molecule has a delocalized pi bond.

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Re: Sapling Q #16

Postby Britney Tran IJ » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:03 pm

Kat Stahl 1L wrote:I found a video that I thought was really helpful in this concept. Here it is!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2Z2tASz7Uk
Hope this helps you!

thank you so much for this resource! it definitely helped a lot

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Re: Sapling Q #16

Postby Karen Elrayes 1L » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:07 pm

After drawing the lewis structures, see which ones have resonance and those will be the ones that are delocalized.

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Re: Sapling Q #16

Postby Callan Howard » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:09 pm

Hi, I believe it means that the pi bond can move around to the other bonds because of resonance, so it is not permanently in the one location, therefore delocalized.

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Re: Sapling Q #16

Postby Joshua Chung 2D » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:10 pm

Delocalized simply means that there exist resonance structures for the compound, so the pi bond(s) can exist in multiple different positions.

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Re: Sapling Q #16

Postby George_Yin_3I » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:23 am

Delocalized pi bonds occur when pi bonds extend to more than 2 atoms, so you can see after drawing out the Lewis structure.


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