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double bonds

Postby Tylina Guo 1K » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:23 pm

how do we differentiate which bond is the sigma and which is the pi bond in a double bond?

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Re: double bonds

Postby Minoo Bastani 2J » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:27 pm

It is arbitrary, meaning that either one of the two could be the sigma bond and the other is then the pi bond. It is your choice to decide which is which, but you should clearly distinguish between the two when necessary.

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Re: double bonds

Postby Junyong Wu » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:18 pm

The first bond to be broken is the pi bond.

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Re: double bonds

Postby Nithya Narapa Reddy » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:24 pm

A pi bond is the first bond that's broken and the other bond is the sigma bond.

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Re: double bonds

Postby Lizzy Bulla 3K » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:28 pm

It doesn't necessarily matter. Either can be sigma or pi. Drawing them, just know one is each. You don't need to know which is sigma or pi.

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Re: double bonds

Postby Madeline_Miller » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:34 pm

Pi Bond = First bond that is broken
Sigma Bond = Other bond

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Re: double bonds

Postby 805401611 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:45 pm

The best way to determine this is by remembering that the sigma bond is always the first bond that is formed between two atoms and the pi bonds is always the second. Therefore, when a double bond is broken, the first bond that is broken between the two will be the pi bond. Hope that helps!

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Re: double bonds

Postby Andrea_Perez_2F » Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:50 pm

A quick way to think about it is when you see a single bond or any type of bond really, see it as there is a sigma bond there. When you see a double or triple bond this means that there are pi bonds present. Single bonds have one sigma bond. double bonds have a sigma and pi bond. triple bonds have one sigma bond and two pi bonds.

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Re: double bonds

Postby Shaleena 3C » Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:55 pm

The pi bond will be the first to be broken !

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Re: double bonds

Postby Omeed Kalan » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:01 pm

Pi will be the first bond broken.

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Re: double bonds

Postby akemiwebster2G » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:02 pm

Always remember that the sigma bond is the first link formed between two atoms, and the pi bond is the second. As a result, when a double bond is broken, the pi bond is the first to be broken between the two!

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Re: double bonds

Postby Sofia Potter 1I » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:04 pm

The pi bond is the first bond broken, but it shouldn't matter too much!

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Re: double bonds

Postby Ashrita Singh 2F » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:15 pm

The first bond made is the sigma bond, and the second bond will be a pi bond.

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Re: double bonds

Postby Aaron Kim 1J » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:19 pm

The pi bond is the first to be broken

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Re: double bonds

Postby Polo Morales 3C » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:51 pm

The sigma bond will have been the first one formed and will involve end-to-end bonding of orbitals. The pi bonds will form subsequently, and are side-by-side bonds that do not allow for rotation. Hope this helps!

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Re: double bonds

Postby Alice Weber 3I » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:52 pm

Hi, the first bond to be broken is the pi bond.

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Re: double bonds

Postby Tara Cumiskey 3K » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:55 pm

The pi bond is the first one broken.

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Re: double bonds

Postby Chelsea Greene 1L » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:56 pm

Both are present, and I believe we just have to understand that conceptually and not be able to identify which is which.

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Re: double bonds

Postby Chris Van 2J » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:38 am

The first bond broken is the pi bond. Also in hybridization, the set of electrons in the p orbital can be characterized as the pi bond!

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Re: double bonds

Postby elletruchan2I » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:40 am

Hi Tiyana!
We don't know which bond is the sigma and which is the pi bond in a double bond, just that there is one of each.

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Re: double bonds

Postby Brooklyn Burgess 3L » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:09 am

Why if there are 6 angles, there are 12 sigma bonds?

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Re: double bonds

Postby Albert 1I » Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:02 am

In a double bond there is one sigma bond and one pi bond. The sigma bond is the direct sharing of electrons in the molecule, while the pi bond is delocalized.

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Re: double bonds

Postby 305597516 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:23 am

The first bond is essentially always a sigma bond, and the second one that forms (if a double bond is occurring) is the pi bond. It is probably more helpful just to know that a double bond possesses one sigma and one pi bond, as I feel like when you draw them out you wouldn't really be able to distinguish them (unless in like an ochem kind of way).

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Re: double bonds

Postby Nicola Higgins 14B » Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:06 am

All the first bonds are sigma, and double bonds if there are any are pi. Pi are rigid and do not allow for rotation of the molecule, unlike sigma bonds!

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Re: double bonds

Postby cnyland » Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:41 am

It doesn't matter! Just one is sigma and one is pi

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Re: double bonds

Postby erud » Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:40 pm

I don't believe that there is a specific bond in a lewis structure or other diagram that you can differentiate , but I usually make sure to indicate the sigma bonds first.

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Re: double bonds

Postby 205282258 » Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:58 am

the pi bond is the first one to be broken, the sigma is the other bond


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