Angles of Chemical Structures

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Sophia Hartwell 1F
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Angles of Chemical Structures

Postby Sophia Hartwell 1F » Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:31 pm

When drawing structures, are there any clues within the compound that could tell me which shape the structure should be?

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Re: Angles of Chemical Structures

Postby patienceokani » Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:06 pm

The main clue that we can get to determine the molecular shape of a compound is how many atoms the central atom is bonded to as well as how many lone pairs there are on the central atom.

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Re: Angles of Chemical Structures

Postby amar_151 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:09 pm

I struggled with this at the beginning of lewis structures and molecular geometry as well. The best advice I can give that has helped me is to draw the atoms as far away from each other as possible. Remember electron electron repulsion!

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Re: Angles of Chemical Structures

Postby 805812306 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:14 pm

I agree that this confusion has no clear cut rules to clarify which is the most stable shape of the structure. It is difficult to know which shape is the most likely especially when there are so many seemingly rule-breaking cases. The thing that has helped me the most has been practicing drawing different structures and looking at exceptions to the rules.

Also, remember to fill the octet!!!

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Re: Angles of Chemical Structures

Postby Ashley Tonthat 2B » Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:14 pm

Hello,

I don't think the actual chemical formula will give any clues since the geometry is impacted by the number of atoms and lone pairs, but if you follow the octet/expanded octet rules (with few exceptions of Be and B) and memorize the VSEPR chart, it should help when visualizing the position of the atoms and electrons to tell what type of shape it is. Hope this helps.

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Re: Angles of Chemical Structures

Postby tashyavakil 2K » Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:35 pm

we learned in class what the different structures are called. You can look at how many atoms are bonded and how many loan pairs there are and use a molecular structure chart to decipher what the molecule would be.

Sophia Hartwell 1F
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Re: Angles of Chemical Structures

Postby Sophia Hartwell 1F » Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:11 pm

Thank you guys! I found most of the replies to be very helpful.

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Re: Angles of Chemical Structures

Postby Caitlin_Chheda_1K » Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:49 pm

Hi! I don't think you can immediately tell from looking at the compound name unless you have already practiced with that compound or compounds with the same valence electrons. The one thing I would recommend is drawing the Lewis structure in order to find out the electron and molecular geometry. Although drawing several of these can take time, it is the only way to know for sure.


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