Octet Rule

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Octet Rule

Postby 105194078 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:16 pm

So when there's a molecule like Oxygen and Helium together in a lewis dot structure does is it valid to say that Heliums electron is part of Oxygens now and now is following the Octet rule?

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Re: Octet Rule

Postby KHowe_1D » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:18 pm

Helium probably wouldn't bond with other elements because it is already stable as a noble gas. Noble gasses are known not to react with other elements.

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Re: Octet Rule

Postby 105194078 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:20 pm

Does this also apply for Nitrogen with Hydrogen and Helium? Would Nitrogen be following the rule? When they're together doesn't the bond technically make it a pair?

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Re: Octet Rule

Postby 105194078 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:21 pm

KHowe_1B wrote:Helium probably wouldn't bond with other elements because it is already stable as a noble gas. Noble gasses are known not to react with other elements.

Okay, then let's say it's a different element like Carbon. Would it still be following the rule?

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Re: Octet Rule

Postby Jared_Yuge » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:29 pm

In the case of oxygen and carbon, you would say that they are sharing their electrons because it is a covalent bond. If it were a scenario where there were ionic bonds then you could say that atom A took one electron from Atom B

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Re: Octet Rule

Postby Alexandra Bartolome 2H » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:34 pm

105194078 wrote:
KHowe_1B wrote:Helium probably wouldn't bond with other elements because it is already stable as a noble gas. Noble gasses are known not to react with other elements.

Okay, then let's say it's a different element like Carbon. Would it still be following the rule?


Lewis structures show how atoms are bonded together, and atoms bond together to achieve an octet so atoms in a Lewis dot structure should be following the octet rule. Also, I think it is more accurate to say that the different elements are sharing electrons, not that one is a part of another's.

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Re: Octet Rule

Postby 105194078 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:59 pm

Alexandra Bartolome 4D wrote:
105194078 wrote:
KHowe_1B wrote:Helium probably wouldn't bond with other elements because it is already stable as a noble gas. Noble gasses are known not to react with other elements.

Okay, then let's say it's a different element like Carbon. Would it still be following the rule?


Lewis structures show how atoms are bonded together, and atoms bond together to achieve an octet so atoms in a Lewis dot structure should be following the octet rule. Also, I think it is more accurate to say that the different elements are sharing electrons, not that one is a part of another's.


Sorry, I'm just curious about the atoms that share double bonds. Would those that share double bonds count as having just 2 or having 4 in total? Does that make sense?

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Re: Octet Rule

Postby Alexandra Bartolome 2H » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:21 am

105194078 wrote:
Alexandra Bartolome 4D wrote:
105194078 wrote:Okay, then let's say it's a different element like Carbon. Would it still be following the rule?


Lewis structures show how atoms are bonded together, and atoms bond together to achieve an octet so atoms in a Lewis dot structure should be following the octet rule. Also, I think it is more accurate to say that the different elements are sharing electrons, not that one is a part of another's.


Sorry, I'm just curious about the atoms that share double bonds. Would those that share double bonds count as having just 2 or having 4 in total? Does that make sense?


With double bonds, four electrons would be shared.


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