When to draw Resonance Structures

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When to draw Resonance Structures

Postby KaleenaJezycki_1I » Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:56 am

For the midterm, should we always draw the resonance structures or will we be okay with drawing the most stable structure? I guess more clearly I am wondering if Dr. Lavelle will specify "draw the Lewis Structure and its resonance forms" or should we still draw the resonance structures if it only says "draw the lewis structure"?

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Re: When to draw Resonance Structures

Postby Rida Ismail 2E » Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:16 pm

I believe that if we have to draw the lewis structure regardless of where we will have to draw resonance. But if you are talking about the formal charge when you are addressing the most stable state, then yes you always draw the most stable unless it states otherwise.

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Re: When to draw Resonance Structures

Postby MMckinney_4H » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:46 pm

If he is going to grade us on whether or not we know how to draw resonance structures, he will ask us to draw them. There may be resonance structures of the most stable lewis structure for a given molecule, but we shouldn't have to draw them unless specified.

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Re: When to draw Resonance Structures

Postby Oduwole 1E » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:38 pm

You should definantly draw the resonance structures if asked to do so. If not, you should be able to just draw the most stable Lewis structure for the compound.

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Re: When to draw Resonance Structures

Postby thanh24mai » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:07 pm

I think to just be safe, draw the resonance structures unless he specifies to not do draw them.

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Re: When to draw Resonance Structures

Postby selatran1h » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:16 pm

you should always draw resonance structures unless otherwise stated just to be safe.

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Re: When to draw Resonance Structures

Postby Lizette Noriega 1H » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:18 pm

It's best to always draw resonance structures if the molecule has them. It demonstrates your understanding and it's just safe to have even if you aren't being directly asked to provide them

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Re: When to draw Resonance Structures

Postby Keerthana Sivathasan 2E » Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:57 pm

I'm pretty sure we will be asked to specifically draw resonance structures if he wishes we include them.

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Re: When to draw Resonance Structures

Postby Jessica Tran_3K » Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:58 pm

How do we know when a molecule has resonance?

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Re: When to draw Resonance Structures

Postby MinuChoi » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:07 pm

How do we know when a molecule has resonance?


After optimizing formal charges on the Lewis structure, you will typically find resonance if there is an arrangement of single/double bonds (maybe triple, though we haven't seen that in class yet) that can be moved around without affecting the overall distribution of formal charges (the central atom's FC doesn't change and the outer atoms simply swap formal charges.) This usually happens with a central atom bonded to several atoms of the same elements.

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Re: When to draw Resonance Structures

Postby Kayla Maldonado 1C » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:32 pm

Jessica Tran_3K wrote:How do we know when a molecule has resonance?

A molecule has resonance when it has a bond that can be drawn in a different place and not alter the overall formal charge of the atom or molecule itself. For example, if you have a carbon single bonded to two oxygen and single bonded to another, you can draw the double bond attaching to any one of the three oxygen, so the molecule has resonance. To display this just draw three lewis structures and in each one, the carbon is double bonding to a different oxygen. Resonance only works if the bond that can be moved around pertains to the same atom. If the carbon were double-bonded to an atom that was not oxygen then the molecule would not have resonance as moving the double bond to a different atom alter the formal charges.

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Re: When to draw Resonance Structures

Postby MBouwman_4A » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:28 pm

If the question specifically says to asks to draw resonance structures than you should do so. Otherwise, just draw the most stable Lewis Structure.

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Re: When to draw Resonance Structures

Postby SajaZidan_1K » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:35 pm

The midterm did say to draw the resonance structure if appropriate, so I think in the future you would have to determine whether or not there is a resonance structure. For instance, if it doesn't matter which oxygen has the double bond and which one has the single bond it may look like you have a resonance structure on your hands.

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Re: When to draw Resonance Structures

Postby Nicholas_Gladkov_2J » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:59 pm

KaleenaJezycki_4G wrote:For the midterm, should we always draw the resonance structures or will we be okay with drawing the most stable structure? I guess more clearly I am wondering if Dr. Lavelle will specify "draw the Lewis Structure and its resonance forms" or should we still draw the resonance structures if it only says "draw the lewis structure"?


Drawing resonance, most likely, is for the most stable/lowest energy structures. If this lowest energy structure has resonance, draw it, but if it doesn't say to draw the resonance, it's not necessary.

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Re: When to draw Resonance Structures

Postby 405398682 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:00 pm

I will recommend drawing all of them just in case though most stable ones should be fine.


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