Lewis structure

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xenamclean_1G
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Lewis structure

Postby xenamclean_1G » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:16 pm

For the Lewis structure of PO4 3-, I know it has one double bond and the rest are single, but why can't all four be double bonds with all of the O having 0 formal charge and the P having a 3- charge?

haileyramsey-1c
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Re: Lewis structure

Postby haileyramsey-1c » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:33 pm

The lewis structure for PO4 3- would be with P in the center and 4 oxygen surrounding, 3 of which connected with a single bond and one with a double bond. You wouldn't put 4 double bonds as you want to distribute the charge. So, having a charge of 3- is really high and not favorable. Also, oxygen is the more electronegative element so it is ideal for it to have a charge over phosphorous and if three oxygen's have -1 charge that is more evenly spread and more favorable.

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Re: Lewis structure

Postby chemboi » Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:34 pm

What is the reasoning behind only having one double bond, instead of two or three?

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Re: Lewis structure

Postby LNgo 1G » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:23 pm

Phosphorus can only have 5 bonds total since there are only 10 electron places in the d shell that it uses to expand its octet.

Anthony Hatashita 4H
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Re: Lewis structure

Postby Anthony Hatashita 4H » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:23 pm

O is more electronegative than P so it receives the negative charge, and you want the charges to be spread out, not on one atom usually

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Re: Lewis structure

Postby 305376058 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:46 pm

The phosphorus in the center is less electronegative than oxygen so it wouldn't make sense for it to attract such a large negative charge. Additionally, it is less stable in general for any one element in the structure to have such a large charge.


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