Textbook 2B11 part C

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Connie Liang 3L
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Textbook 2B11 part C

Postby Connie Liang 3L » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:48 pm

How come you can't include nitrogen as the central atom in between the 2 carbon atoms? Is it because carbon is less electronegative and therefore at least one should be in the middle? Alternatively, how do you tell when you're able to draw the central atoms in the order that they're presented?

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Re: Textbook 2B11 part C

Postby Hailey Qasawadish 2J » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:50 pm

For molecules that are presented how it is in part C that have many different parts, I like to do it in order to make sure that the correct things are bonded to each other. I believe the NH2 has to go on an end because it is in parentheses, but I could be mistaken.

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Re: Textbook 2B11 part C

Postby Connie Liang 3L » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:53 pm

Hailey Qasawadish 2J wrote:For molecules that are presented how it is in part C that have many different parts, I like to do it in order to make sure that the correct things are bonded to each other. I believe the NH2 has to go on an end because it is in parentheses, but I could be mistaken.

@Hailey, as a general rule, do molecules with different parts have to be written in that specific order?

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Re: Textbook 2B11 part C

Postby Morgan Gee 3B » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:57 pm

As Dr. Lavelle has said, always put the least electronegative element as the central atom. When comparing carbon and nitrogen, you'll see that carbon is less electronegative than nitrogen. Just using periodic trends, nitrogen is further up and right than carbon. Also, nitrogen has a greater effective nuclear charge considering it has one more proton than carbon. This explains why nitrogen is more electronegative than carbon.

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Re: Textbook 2B11 part C

Postby Hailey Qasawadish 2J » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:28 am

Connie Liang 3L wrote:
Hailey Qasawadish 2J wrote:For molecules that are presented how it is in part C that have many different parts, I like to do it in order to make sure that the correct things are bonded to each other. I believe the NH2 has to go on an end because it is in parentheses, but I could be mistaken.

@Hailey, as a general rule, do molecules with different parts have to be written in that specific order?


I do not think they have to, I think it’s more of what makes sense for the molecule. For example, some molecules can only be written on the ends because they can’t have expanded octets. I still sometimes get confused when drawing these, but I start by drawing it in order, and if that doesn’t work out in terms of bonds and formal charge, I try a different way! I believe you still follow the rule that the lease electronegative goes in the middle. I’m sorry that this response is kind of scrambled, but I hope this helped!


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