Exception to Octet rule (Cl)

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Jamie2002
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Exception to Octet rule (Cl)

Postby Jamie2002 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:42 pm

When drawing the Lewis Structure for ClO2+, I initially put O as the central atom because it is less electronegative than Cl and I thought that Cl only has one available bond (since it has 7 valence electrons). Does Cl have an expanded octet? Why it is the central atom if it is more electronegative?

Racquel Fox 2I
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Re: Exception to Octet rule (Cl)

Postby Racquel Fox 2I » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:31 am

Cl can have an expanded octet because its in the 3rd period on the periodic table, and the 3p elements and lower can have an expanded octet. I believe for this problem Cl would be the central atom for the sake of symmetry where it could have two O on either side that are double bonded, and a lone pair on the Cl which gives you the +1 charge on the Cl.

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Re: Exception to Octet rule (Cl)

Postby Jiwon_Chae_3L » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:36 am

Cl can have an expanded octet but I think that Cl is the central atom here because it is the least numerous element in the compound, though I am not sure why this takes precedence over the electronegativity rule.

claire ikemiya_2I
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Re: Exception to Octet rule (Cl)

Postby claire ikemiya_2I » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:53 am

Yes! All elements below row 3 can expand their octet.

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Re: Exception to Octet rule (Cl)

Postby Jamie2002 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:40 am

Racquel Fox 3L wrote:Cl can have an expanded octet because its in the 3rd period on the periodic table, and the 3p elements and lower can have an expanded octet. I believe for this problem Cl would be the central atom for the sake of symmetry where it could have two O on either side that are double bonded, and a lone pair on the Cl which gives you the +1 charge on the Cl.


Thanks, that helped a lot!

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Re: Exception to Octet rule (Cl)

Postby Jamie2002 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:41 am

Jiwon_Chae_3J wrote:Cl can have an expanded octet but I think that Cl is the central atom here because it is the least numerous element in the compound, though I am not sure why this takes precedence over the electronegativity rule.


Thank you!

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Re: Exception to Octet rule (Cl)

Postby Jamie2002 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:41 am

claire ikemiya_2I wrote:Yes! All elements below row 3 can expand their octet.


Thank you!


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