Where to Place Electrons

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Nick Smith 2H
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Where to Place Electrons

Postby Nick Smith 2H » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:30 pm

When drawing Lewis structures for an element, is there a specific order that we place the electrons in their valence shell. For example, do we start at the top and move clockwise, adding one dot for an electron is this order? Also, are we able to manipulate the position of the dots when illustrating a bond between two atoms?

Kaitlyn_Urquilla_1I
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Re: Where to Place Electrons

Postby Kaitlyn_Urquilla_1I » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:53 pm

Hi! I don't think that we need to start at a specific location but we do add one electron to each side first before adding the second to each side. I think that the way that you draw the dots depends on where you are drawing the bond, so yes, I think that you can decide where you want the dots to go when showing a bond between two atoms.

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Re: Where to Place Electrons

Postby LouiseLin2L » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:57 pm

You can draw the electrons wherever you like as long, to the convenience of demonstrating bonds if there are any, as long as you can make the pair-wise electron grouping obvious enough.

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Re: Where to Place Electrons

Postby Thailer Phorn 1C » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:49 pm

There is no specific order that you have to follow when doing Lewis structures.

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Re: Where to Place Electrons

Postby 105778693 » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:52 pm

There's no concrete order to follow, but usually you would have two dots on one side before moving onto the next side.

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Re: Where to Place Electrons

Postby 14b_student 2E » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:57 pm

You do not have to follow a specific order but generally you put two dots on one side before moving to the next.

Tess_Fleser_1D
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Re: Where to Place Electrons

Postby Tess_Fleser_1D » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:58 pm

For unbonded atoms, just make sure you have the correct number of paired and unpaired electrons, and for bonded atoms the correct number of bond lines (shared electrons) and unshared electrons. In high school I was taught to place the electrons in a clockwise order (for the first and second time around), but I don't think it really matters. Especially for bonded electrons, because you need to move them around to show the bond.

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Re: Where to Place Electrons

Postby Alice Guey 1B » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:06 pm

When it comes to drawing the Lewis structures of atoms, it does not really matter where electrons are placed. Just make sure that all sides have one electron before adding a second, if applicable. Later, when we learn about resonance structures of molecules, where the bonds are placed will matter.

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Re: Where to Place Electrons

Postby Jessica Arcos 2H » Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:01 am

There's not a specific order when placing electrons on Lewis structures, I think you just have to have at least one electron on each side before adding the second one.

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Re: Where to Place Electrons

Postby bree_wray_14a » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:21 pm

Hi, I do not believe that there is a specific required way you must draw in the dots (electrons)

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Re: Where to Place Electrons

Postby Hannah Carsey 1B » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:23 am

Hi, in terms of placing electrons on Lewis Structures, it is pretty much up to you to decide where to put lone electrons, however when pairing electrons in single, double, and triple bonds it is important to orient these bonds in terms of the correct atoms the bonds are between. It is also important to make sure that, in general, every atom has an octet.

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Re: Where to Place Electrons

Postby Jordyn Lee 1J » Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:49 am

Hi, it does not matter the order in which you draw the dots, only that each side should have one dot before you add a second.

Allison Peng 1D
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Re: Where to Place Electrons

Postby Allison Peng 1D » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:03 pm

There was actually a rule with single atoms in which you place electrons 1 at a time in unoccopied orbitals starting from the top left and moving clockwise along the 4 sides of the atom, and once they are all filled with 1 electron, then add the second electrons to the orbitals in the same order (let me link a picture: https://tinyurl.com/h5a425ct). It basically is arbitrary though, I know people who were taught to start from the right side as opposed to the top.

However, when you place electrons in bonds, etc, usually we just put the lone pairs where they would be placed apart due to lone pair repulsion as opposed to a specific order.


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