formal charge vs. octet

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formal charge vs. octet

Postby 404768057 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:03 pm

When do we know when finding the formal charge is more important than using the octet rule?

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Re: formal charge vs. octet

Postby Chem_Mod » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:50 pm

Octet rule must be obeyed unless an atom has a d subshell available allowing for an expanded octet. Common examples of atoms that can expand their octet are sulfur and phosphorous. An example of an atom that must always obey the octet rule is carbon. It must have 4 bonds.

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Re: formal charge vs. octet

Postby Beza Ayalew 1I » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:29 pm

I read silicon and chlorine can also have an expanded octet as well

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Re: formal charge vs. octet

Postby Amir Akhavan 1E » Sun May 13, 2018 2:00 pm

The octet rule must always be obeyed unless the atom has extra electrons which can be used from the d and f subshells. However you use the formal charge to help determine the correct lewis structure because the lower the formal charge the more stable it is.

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