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Perchlorate (ClO4)-

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:10 am
by Yeo Bin Yook 1K
So this came up in my test and I'm still having a hard time understanding.
When I drew the Lewis Structure, I put the one negative formal charge on the chlorine, thinking that it would be better than putting it on oxygen that makes things less symmetric. However, I got it wrong and the answer said the extra electron should actually be on oxygen.

Why is this so?

Re: Perchlorate (ClO4)-

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:16 am
by jadam_1E
A good general rule when calculating formal charge: make the formal charge on the central atom as close as possible to 0. Also, oxygen is more electronegative than cl so it makes sense for cl to have the additional electron.

Re: Perchlorate (ClO4)-

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:09 am
by Megan Phan 1K
Chlorine is the central atom, and for central atoms you want the formal charge to be 0. The negative charge should be on the others, especially in this instance O is more electronegative than Cl.

Re: Perchlorate (ClO4)-

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:57 pm
by Riya Shah 4H
In ClO4- would all four oxygen atoms have a formal charge of -1?

Re: Perchlorate (ClO4)-

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:58 pm
by Christine Chow 4G
No, I believe 3 of the oxygens bonded to the chlorine are double bonded, so these would have a formal charge of 0. The one oxygen single bonded by chlorine will have a formal charge of -1.

Re: Perchlorate (ClO4)-

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:07 pm
by janeane Kim4G
Can someone explain why 3 O would be double bonded with the Cl? Is there a way to determine if an element like Cl will/will not follow the octet guideline?

Re: Perchlorate (ClO4)-

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:28 pm
by Christopher Tran 1J
Finding out the formal charge of the central atom should tell you whether or not the element will follow the octet guideline, given that the element is in Periods 3+.

For example, in ClO4-, three O are double bonded with the Cl so that the Cl has a formal charge of zero. If the three O were single bonded, then Cl would have had a formal charge of 3+, which is not a favorable structure.

Re: Perchlorate (ClO4)-

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:12 am
by Kristy 1F
Since the -1 charge should be on more electronegative atom. And the oxygen atom is more electronegative.