Octet Exceptions


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Matia Kim 1B
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Octet Exceptions

Postby Matia Kim 1B » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:56 pm

With elements with exceptions in their classification like Copper and Chromium, does that change the number of valence electrons they produce?

Nicole Elhosni 2I
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Re: Octet Exceptions

Postby Nicole Elhosni 2I » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:53 pm

Both copper and chromium have 1 electron in their valence shell, because both have 4s^1 as their final orbital in their electron configuration, Cr [Ar] 3d^5 4s^1, Cu [Ar] 3d^10 4^1. I don't think knowing their valence electrons is as important as elements in group 1,2, 13-17 anyway because Cr and Cu are transition metals so they can form more than one cation.

Sean Reyes 1J
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Re: Octet Exceptions

Postby Sean Reyes 1J » Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:29 pm

The exceptions that copper and chromium have in their d-orbitals are different than having an expanded octet (which exist when n>2). Because these elements exist in the transition metals, they have really weird rules as to how their valence electrons work.
But yes, copper and chromium would have one valence electron as their outermost shell (n=4) has only one electron in it.

Madeline Motamedi 4I
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Re: Octet Exceptions

Postby Madeline Motamedi 4I » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:38 pm

Since the exceptions would allow for the elements to fill up their d orbital it would affect the number in the valence shell.

Soumya Ravichandran 4H
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Re: Octet Exceptions

Postby Soumya Ravichandran 4H » Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:07 pm

Yes, it does. We covered in class these two elements as exceptions but also when we did electron configurations of ions, such as Cu+ we only removed the 4s1 electron, which proves that valence electrons are being affected.


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