Easier way to calculate/remember?


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Clarice Chui 2C
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Easier way to calculate/remember?

Postby Clarice Chui 2C » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:00 pm

Is there an easier way to calculate this/remember it/shortcut?

Sarah Blake-2I
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Re: Easier way to calculate/remember?

Postby Sarah Blake-2I » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:02 pm

Take the valence electrons and subtract how many dots and lines you see connected to the element. This will give you the formal charge.

TanveerDhaliwal3G
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Re: Easier way to calculate/remember?

Postby TanveerDhaliwal3G » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:14 pm

You can count the number of dots and bonds of the atom and subtract that from the number of valence electrons to find the Formal Charge quickly

Julie Park 1G
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Re: Easier way to calculate/remember?

Postby Julie Park 1G » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:30 pm

Formal charge:
# ve- a neutral atom of the element would have - (sum of unpaired electrons + bonds)

Note:
a. count each unpaired electron attached to the atom as a single value
b. count each bond as a single value

For example, say that Nitrogen was surrounded by 1 double bond and 2 unpaired valence electrons. You know that a neutral atom of nitrogen should have 5ve-. Therefore, to find the FC, you would do: 5(ve-) - ( 2 (for each bond in the double bond) + 2 (for each unpaired electron) )
To get 5 - (2+2) or 5-4 which equals 1. The formal charge would be +1
Note: this is just a random theoretical example... not sure if this specific situation is possible

I recommend this youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J03H472fAKI

serenabirkhoff_1K
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Re: Easier way to calculate/remember?

Postby serenabirkhoff_1K » Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:10 pm

for me the easiest way to remember how to calculate formal charge is the formula. At first I was having trouble remembering but once you do enough practice problems with the formula you should remember it.

Kristina Rizo 2K
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Re: Easier way to calculate/remember?

Postby Kristina Rizo 2K » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:20 am

julieepark wrote:Formal charge:
# ve- a neutral atom of the element would have - (sum of unpaired electrons + bonds)

Note:
a. count each unpaired electron attached to the atom as a single value
b. count each bond as a single value

For example, say that Nitrogen was surrounded by 1 double bond and 2 unpaired valence electrons. You know that a neutral atom of nitrogen should have 5ve-. Therefore, to find the FC, you would do: 5(ve-) - ( 2 (for each bond in the double bond) + 2 (for each unpaired electron) )
To get 5 - (2+2) or 5-4 which equals 1. The formal charge would be +1
Note: this is just a random theoretical example... not sure if this specific situation is possible

I recommend this youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J03H472fAKI



Hey i just wanted to say thanks for including the video link, I just watched it and I understand formal charge a lot better!

Julie Park 1G
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Re: Easier way to calculate/remember?

Postby Julie Park 1G » Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:44 pm

Kristina Rizo 3K wrote:
julieepark wrote:Formal charge:
# ve- a neutral atom of the element would have - (sum of unpaired electrons + bonds)

Note:
a. count each unpaired electron attached to the atom as a single value
b. count each bond as a single value

For example, say that Nitrogen was surrounded by 1 double bond and 2 unpaired valence electrons. You know that a neutral atom of nitrogen should have 5ve-. Therefore, to find the FC, you would do: 5(ve-) - ( 2 (for each bond in the double bond) + 2 (for each unpaired electron) )
To get 5 - (2+2) or 5-4 which equals 1. The formal charge would be +1
Note: this is just a random theoretical example... not sure if this specific situation is possible

I recommend this youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J03H472fAKI



Hey i just wanted to say thanks for including the video link, I just watched it and I understand formal charge a lot better!


No problem! :)

Nohemi Garcia 1L
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Re: Easier way to calculate/remember?

Postby Nohemi Garcia 1L » Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:55 pm

For the oxidation numbers I just recommend keeping an eye out for negatively charged ligands.


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