Electron configuration


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Abigail Menchaca_1H
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Electron configuration

Postby Abigail Menchaca_1H » Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:58 pm

Does anyone know the factual reasoning behind why we fill up the 4s orbital before the 3d orbital?

Rishika Yadav 3D
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Re: Electron configuration

Postby Rishika Yadav 3D » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:11 am

the 4s orbital is lower in energy, so the electrons would rather be there because it is more stable.

Anisha Chandra 1K
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Re: Electron configuration

Postby Anisha Chandra 1K » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:01 am

Yes, the 4s orbital is lower energy than 3d, but once 4s is filled, it becomes higher energy than 3d, which is why electrons will be removed from 4s before 3d during ionization.

Katie Bart 1I
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Re: Electron configuration

Postby Katie Bart 1I » Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:01 pm

Before electrons begin to fill the shells, the 4s orbital is lower in energy than the 3d orbital. However, once the 4s orbital is full and there is at least one electron in the 3d orbital, it becomes lower in energy than 4s, so you write 3d before 4s in the configuration.

Megan_1F
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Re: Electron configuration

Postby Megan_1F » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:06 pm

It is important to note that the sugbshells increase in energy going from s<p<d<f.

Mariah
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Re: Electron configuration

Postby Mariah » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:08 pm

Anisha Chandra 4H wrote:Yes, the 4s orbital is lower energy than 3d, but once 4s is filled, it becomes higher energy than 3d, which is why electrons will be removed from 4s before 3d during ionization.


So to clarify, if we need to remove electrons we would go to 4s before 3d, because this confused me.

Anisha Chandra 1K
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Re: Electron configuration

Postby Anisha Chandra 1K » Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:45 pm

Mariah wrote:
Anisha Chandra 4H wrote:Yes, the 4s orbital is lower energy than 3d, but once 4s is filled, it becomes higher energy than 3d, which is why electrons will be removed from 4s before 3d during ionization.


So to clarify, if we need to remove electrons we would go to 4s before 3d, because this confused me.


Yes, that is correct.

Catherine Daye 1L
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Re: Electron configuration

Postby Catherine Daye 1L » Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:49 pm

The 4s orbital is lower in energy. However, when it is full, it becomes higher in energy than 3d. This explains why we write electron configurations like 3d^2 4s^2 4p^6.


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