Formal Charge Placement

Moderators: Chem_Mod, Chem_Admin

Ashley Kao 1H
Posts: 50
Joined: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:16 am

Formal Charge Placement

Postby Ashley Kao 1H » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:39 pm

We learned that in a bond with a negative charge, the negative formal charge will be located at the most electronegative atom, but what about a positive charge? Does the placement of a positive formal charge matter?

Posts: 55
Joined: Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:17 am

Re: Formal Charge Placement

Postby kevinchang_4I » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:08 am

It usually does matter in the same way we apply negative formal charges. Because we try to apply neg charges to the most electronegative atom, we try to apply pos charges to the least electronegative atom. This is usually the central atom. However, making our formal charges zero is still the primary goal.

Posts: 104
Joined: Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:18 am
Been upvoted: 1 time

Re: Formal Charge Placement

Postby Jielena_Bragasin2G » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:22 am

Usually it is put on the most electropositive atom, hence it usually being on the central atom. However, like the comment said before, it is not as important as where a spare electron is placed. Hope this helps!

Manav Govil 1B
Posts: 104
Joined: Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:19 am

Re: Formal Charge Placement

Postby Manav Govil 1B » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:26 am

Negative charges tend to be put on the more electronegative atom, while the positive charge is put on the atom affected by the electronegative atom.

Look at SO2. There is a negative charge on the Oxygen (the more electronegative atom), and a positive charge on Sulfur (the element affected by the electronegativity of Oxygen).

There are exceptions, such as CO, where the positive charge is on the Oxygen, and the negative charge is on the Carbon. This tells us that the octet rule takes priority over formal charges.

Posts: 102
Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:15 am

Re: Formal Charge Placement

Postby 305385703 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:30 am

The positive charge will depend on where the negative charges are. Octet rules are obeyed first, then electronegativity and lowest formal charge should be obeyed, and then the positive charges will be in the places that they should be. It's not a matter of placing the positive charges where they should be, it's about putting the lowest formal charges on the most electronegative atoms first.

Return to “Formal Charge and Oxidation Numbers”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests