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formal charge

Postby Rachel Martinez 1A » Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:11 pm

Hello Is formal charge only for when electrons are forming covalent bonds or can it be for ionic or formal charge applies to everything?

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Re: formal charge

Postby Shannon Clark 1F » Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:55 pm

Formal charge is for all bonds! Formal charges for ions should add up to equal the final charge of the ion, whereas normally the formal charges should add up to zero.

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Re: formal charge

Postby Marie Khijniak 2E » Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:08 am

Hi!
Formal charge is for all types of bonds. If the bond is ionic, the formal charges of each separate atom will add up to the overall charge of the molecule. If the bonds are covalent, and there is no charge on the molecule, they will add up to zero.
Hope this helps!

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Re: formal charge

Postby Miranda Hess 3I » Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:13 am

Yes, it applies to all different bonds because it is just a description of one characteristic of atoms. The "description" varies based on the bond, however.

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Re: formal charge

Postby Isela Tamayo 3H » Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:19 am

It should apply to ALL bonds.

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Re: formal charge

Postby Darlene Luu 1H » Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:33 am

Formal charge applies to all bonds in a molecule which also helps determine the best lewis dot structure!

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Re: formal charge

Postby Martha Avila 1I » Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:55 am

Hello! Formal charges apply to all elements within a molecule. After drawing a lewis structure you have to calculate the formal charge of each element and then you add all the charges together for the total charge. If your formal charges do not equal to the total charge you know you have a mistake. If you have no formal charges then your overall charge should be 0. Hope this helps.

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Re: formal charge

Postby 505706331 » Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:02 pm

formal charge is for all elements in a molecule. usually it is best to have a formal charge of zero on all atoms in a molecule and if the molecule has a charge then the formal charge should match up to that charge

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Re: formal charge

Postby Jordyn Lee 1J » Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:31 pm

Hi, formal charge is for all bonds. It shows the gain or loss of electrons when forming bonds, and in a covalent bond it should add up to 0. For ions, it should add up to the ionic charge.

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Re: formal charge  [ENDORSED]

Postby Sally_Luo_3F » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:18 am

formal charges can be applied to all bonds. It is best for the molecule to have a formal charge of zero or have the fewest number of formal charges.

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Re: formal charge

Postby Luke Schwuchow 14A » Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:47 pm

Hello! It's a good tip to know that formal charges affect all electrons! No matter what the bond is, all electrons effect charges, therefore the overall charge would also be effected.

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Re: formal charge

Postby Nishan Reddy 3K » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:04 am

Formal charges can be for all bonds where we most commonly use them in covalent bonds to determine whether a specific lewis diagram is most stable whereas with ionic bonds, the formal charge is simply equal to the respective charge on the ion.

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Re: formal charge

Postby Ana Luiza S » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:10 pm

I tend to think of formal charge as a measure of how many bonds/electrons an atom needs vs how many it actually has. So oxygen for example needs 2 bonds to be "happy" (aka stable), but if it's in a molecule where it only has one bond, its formal charge must be -1 because it has one less bond than it needs to be stable. Nitrogen needs 3 bonds, but if it's in a molecule where it has 4 bonds, its formal charge in that molecule must be +1 since it has one more bond than it needs to be stable. When I started thinking of formal charge this way I started calculating it muuuch faster! Hope this helps!

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Re: formal charge

Postby Ivy Vo Dis 1C » Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:10 pm

Formal charges apply to all types of bonds. It can be calculated using the equation: Total number of valence electrons - total number of lone electrons - (total number of bonded electrons/2). We can use formal charge to determine which Lewis structure is the most stable. The Lewis structure with formal charges closest to zero will be the most stable.

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Re: formal charge

Postby 205686400 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:11 pm

Hi there! The formal charge is not limited to any type of bond, as its function is to find the charge of an atom/ion at any given point in time of the molecule in the Lewis structure. So no matter what type of bond is formed there will always be a formal charge of -, 0, or +.

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Re: formal charge

Postby Windell Viste 1K » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:33 pm

Like everyone has said, formal charge applies to all bonds and should add up to the overall charge of the molecule.

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Re: formal charge

Postby Michael 1G » Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:20 pm

Formal charge can be applied to all types of bonds and molecules. The sum of each atom's individual formal charge determines the overall charge of a molecule. The most stable molecules have a formal charge closest to zero.

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Re: formal charge

Postby Cynthia_L_2C » Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:50 am

Formal charges are applied to all types of bonds! This helps you determine the stability of the structures.

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Re: formal charge

Postby Daniel Tabibian 3K » Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:20 am

Formal charges are used in every kind of bond and the individual formal charges should add up to the total charge of the compound.

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Re: formal charge

Postby Edriana J Altea 2G » Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:35 pm

I agree with everyone, formal charge should be applied to all molecules because it shows how stable it is.


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