Formal Charges and Double Bonds
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Re: Formal Charges and Double Bonds
You are counting the number of shared electrons. Therefore, when calculating formal charge for a double bond should be 4. (don't forget that the equation for formal charge divides the shared electrons by two as well. So if there is one double bond, it would be 4/2 or 2)
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Re: Formal Charges and Double Bonds
Each bonding pair of electrons counts as 1 electron when calculating formal charge because the atoms are sharing the electrons. Therefore, when an atom has a double bond with another atom, it would be considered as "owning" 2 electrons.
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Re: Formal Charges and Double Bonds
When calculating formal charge, BOTH the bonded electrons (count 1 per bond line) and the number of lone pair electrons will be added up and then subtracted by the valence electrons of the atom. So to answer your question, yes double bonds will affect the formal charge of the atom, and using the equation will help you better understand/see why.
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Re: Formal Charges and Double Bonds
When calculating the formal charge, a double bond would be counted as 2 since we are searching for the number of bonds bonded to a certain element. For example, a random oxygen bonded to another element with a double bond would make the formal charge equation:
6 (valence) - 4 (number of lone electrons) - 2 (number of bonds) = 0
6 (valence) - 4 (number of lone electrons) - 2 (number of bonds) = 0
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Re: Formal Charges and Double Bonds
Each bond counts as two electrons, so a double bond would mean that there are four electrons. However, when calculating formal charge, you would divide the number of electrons by 2 so you would end up subtracting two from the original number of electrons present in a given atom.
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Re: Formal Charges and Double Bonds
Double bonds count as 2, but this is because there are 4 shared electrons. Meaning that in the formal charge equation, one double bond would be equal to 4/2 = 2.
Re: Formal Charges and Double Bonds
Each bond is counted as 1 because electrons are shared. Therefore a double bond is counted as 2
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Re: Formal Charges and Double Bonds
Double bonds count as 2 bonds. They represent 4 shared electrons, so dividing that by 2 gives you 2 bonds.
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Re: Formal Charges and Double Bonds
Hi,
A double bond will be counted as two because each bond is one.
A double bond will be counted as two because each bond is one.
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Re: Formal Charges and Double Bonds
Oh ok thank you! Just making sure but for VESPR models they would only count as 1 because its talking about regions?
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Re: Formal Charges and Double Bonds
The equation to find formal charge is as follows: formal charge = (total number of valence electrons) - (total number of lone electrons) - (total number of bonds). In the case of a double bond, there would be four bonded electrons involved. This means that a double bond should be counted as two separate bonds when calculating formal charge.
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Re: Formal Charges and Double Bonds
In a bond, each atom is putting one electron in, therefore a bond essentially makes up two electrons. Therefore, when trying to find the number of electrons of an atom to find the formal charge, we associate one electron from each bond to that atom being bonded. So if there is a double bond, that atom has two electrons there.
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Re: Formal Charges and Double Bonds
Double bonds count as 2 and in the context of the formal charge equation it'll be 4 shared electrons.
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Re: Formal Charges and Double Bonds
Yes double bond would count as 1 because VESPR models are based on regions of electron density!Chaleah Duran wrote:Oh ok thank you! Just making sure but for VESPR models they would only count as 1 because its talking about regions?
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Re: Formal Charges and Double Bonds
In the formal charge equation, you count double bonds as 2 because there are 4 electrons and 4/2= 2 if you are looking at it at counting the number of electrons. However, to answer the question further down the posts, double bonds are counted as 1 in VSEPR theory because it is still just one region of electron density, whether or not it is a single, double, or triple bond.
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Re: Formal Charges and Double Bonds
I agree, a double bond with have a value of 2 because of the 4 electrons present
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